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  <title>Comments for Okay - new whazzis?</title>
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    <published>2006-06-11T18:06:30Z</published>
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    <title>Okay - new whazzis?</title>
    <summary> 1. It&apos;s an object from the Arsenal. 2. It&apos;s about the width of a pencil. Lessee - if I were to give you a hint, I would look principally to a Frenchman for inspiration, although the object itself is not French. Update - obviously, some more hints are in order: Oh, and BCR - flexible - in terms of being all wiggly or something, no. In terms of multiple uses - not by intent, though soldiers are certainly an inventive group and I could think of alternate purposes to which it could be put... including, in fact, one that...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/0D736BC4598EC0C/orig.jpg" border=0 alt="This'll be a pain."></p>

<p>1. It's an object from the Arsenal.  </p>

<p>2. It's about the width of a pencil.</p>

<p>Lessee - if I were to give you a hint, I would look principally to a Frenchman for inspiration, although the object itself is not French.</p>

<p>Update - obviously, some more hints are in order:</p>

<p>Oh, and BCR - flexible - in terms of being all wiggly or something, no.</p>

<p>In terms of multiple uses - not by intent, though soldiers are certainly an inventive group and I could think of alternate purposes to which it could be put... including, in fact, one that *I* put it to... some decades after it ceased to be an artifact in general use.</p>

<p>It was innovative for it's day, but was only transitional to better designs and approaches - like the Gatling or Gardner guns (ignoring the renaissance enjoyed by the Gatling due to the application of electricity!).</p>

<p>And no, it is not related to either of the above.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-13</title>
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        You may.  And be more accurate, too.
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    <published>2006-06-13T12:54:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2006-06-13</title>
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        May I suggest &quot;driving band&quot; vice &quot;sabot&quot;?

Cheers
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    <published>2006-06-13T12:32:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2006-06-12</title>
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        i keep thinking Gardner or a Whitworth sniper round...

but the froggies also had somekinda triangle base thingie..

stumped.
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    <published>2006-06-12T14:21:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        He shoots, he SCORES!
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    <published>2006-06-12T14:03:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from brogonzo on 2006-06-12</title>
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        John --

Could be... but then again, it might be more because I&apos;ve spent a lot more time looking at police reports than ordnance. Speaking of which, we just had a captain here court-martialed for trafficking crystal meth.
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    <published>2006-06-12T13:58:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        MajMike scores on Phase 1.

The frenchman I was referring to was Captain Minie.

The principle... I spelled it that way for a reason, was that of base expansion to engage rifling.

The next post will move it to Phase 2.
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        Hmmm, Brogonzo.  Looks like we&apos;ve got a little officer/enlisted worldview difference at work here...   8^ D
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2006-06-12</title>
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        <![CDATA[welll.....   seeing as the base portion there appears to be of a lighter material (for like sabot action), i was thinking along the lines of this...

<a href="http://www.civilwarartillery.com/projectiles/rifled/IIIA86and87.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.civilwarartillery.com/projectiles/rifled/IIIA86and87.htm</a>

..but, that would be for a much larger projo, nothing as skinny as a pencil that i could recall.]]>
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    <title>Comment from brogonzo on 2006-06-12</title>
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        I have no idea. It eventually started to look like drug paraphernelia, and now I can&apos;t see anything else in that photo. So my guess is &quot;crack pipe.&quot;
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        Greater specificity, please, Major.
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2006-06-12</title>
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        kind of like a Confederate Read-Parrott design?? (but a lot smaller)
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        Oh, and BCR - flexible - in terms of being all wiggly or something, no.

In terms of multiple uses - not by intent, though soldiers are certainly an inventive group and I could think of alternate purposes to which it coule be put... including, in fact, one that *I* put it to... some decades after it ceased to be an artifact in general use.

It was innovative for it&apos;s day, but was only transitional to better designs and approaches - like the Gatling or Gardner guns (ignoring the renaissance enjoyed by the Gatling due to the application of electricity!).

And no, it is not related to either of the above.
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-12</title>
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        Tim, creative, but nope.  Ry - clever boy!  But, nope.

BCR - The frenchman whom you should derive principle inspiration from was born *after* Lavoisier died.
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2006-06-11</title>
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        Having looked in the Arsenal(damn dial up at home!) I&apos;m guessing it&apos;s something to do with your Vivien-Brassiere grenades.  No idea what, yet(damn dial up!).  
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    <title>Comment from Tim on 2006-06-11</title>
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        French, mmm?  It&apos;s the holder for a white flag! 
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    <title>Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2006-06-11</title>
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        is it flexible?  Does Lavoisier have anything to do with it?
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-11</title>
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        Hmmm.  No.  Yer both wrong.
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    <title>Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2006-06-11</title>
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        Civil-War-era tactical cheese grater!
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        Could dat be a badly chewed-up remains of a .577 Snider boom-boom thingie?
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