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  <title>Comments for Live from Iraq Trivia Question.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2006-06-22T12:57:17Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:33Z</updated>
    <title>Live from Iraq Trivia Question.</title>
    <summary>Castle Denizen Blake, a retired soldier who works as a DA Civilian log weenie &quot;somewhere in the United States&quot; is currently in Iraq, working a unit redeployment. Here&apos;s his spotrep: I&apos;ve been over here in Iraq for two weeks now. I&apos;m no longer jet-lagged, and we&apos;re starting to get work done. That having been said, we&apos;re still in the middle of a war here, so I&apos;m reluctant to talk specifics about where we are, who we&apos;re working with, and when things are happening. The bad guys use the Internet to communicate all the time. It would be stupid to assume...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Castle Denizen Blake, a retired soldier who works as a DA Civilian log weenie "somewhere in the United States" is currently in Iraq, working a unit redeployment.  Here's his spotrep:</p>

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I've been over here in Iraq for two weeks now.  I'm no longer jet-lagged, and we're starting to get work done.  That having been said, we're still in the middle of a war here, so I'm reluctant to talk specifics about where we are, who we're working with, and when things are happening.  The bad guys use the Internet to communicate all the time.  It would be stupid to assume that they don't read it, too.

<p>I suppose I can say that we're at a large Coalition base some distance north of Baghdad, more or less in the area the news media call "the Sunni Triangle."  The terrain around the base reminds me of nothing so much as the High Plains of Texas, out around Lubbock, Leveland, and Plainview.  Flat, flat, flat, as far as the eye can see.  This plain we're on is too high above the Tigris valley for irrigation prior to the invention of mechanically-driven pumps, so this area was likely mostly originally inhabited by nomadic goat and camel herders.  Goats and camels are about all that could live on what passes for plant life here anyway:  it's mostly scrubby grasses and knee-high shrubs.  If you see a <br />
tree it's because some human being put it there on purpose.  And hot.  And dusty.  And hot.  Afternoon temps are pushing up toward the 120 degrees F mark, and it's not even the end of June yet.  That old saw about "But it's a dry heat..." tends to lose its meaning one it gets up past 120 or so.  And when the humidity is down in the single digits one can dehydrate just sitting in the shade and doing nothing.</p>

<p>We're still in a shooting war here, of course, and the base occasionally catches some mortar fire.  What little artillery we have here fires occasional H&I missions on the known open areas from which the insurgents occasionally lob the odd shell or six over the fences.  This has evidently convinced many of the locals to discourage the insurgents from shooting at us from some of the local villages, the villagers not wanting to wind up on either the H&I rotation, or on the receiving end of a counterbattery mission.</p>

<p>Because we still catch the occasional shell, most everything of importance on the base has revetments around it.  The preferred method seems to be sectional reinforced concrete walls rather like traffic barriers on steroids.  Some older sites are protected by "Hescos," big wire mesh baskets lined with a felt-like synthetic fabric which are named after the company that makes them.  Hescos come in a variety of sizes, and are easy to install.  They arrive folded up on a pallet.  A squad unfolds them and stands them up, and then a bucket-loader fills them with dirt.  Instant revetment. The tent I'm living in right now is protected by a revetment made of 2-meter Hescos.  That is, these Hescos are cubes 2 meters on a side.  Having 2 meters of dirt between me and any possible shell fragments does tend to  let me sleep more soundly at night.  <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/9AE1E72762B72F6/orig.jpg">See the attached picture</a></b>.</p>

<p>Hescos are yet another proof that the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Marshal Vauban, the great 17th-Century military engineer, would have no problem recognizing Hescos as a variant of something that he used all the time.  Here's a good trivia question for the grognards at the Castle:  what term would Vauban have used for Hescos, and what would his version have been made of?<br />
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-26</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        JTG, the remains of an airplane the movers destroyed many years ago, held as evidence, now sitting long forgotten in a corner until your gimlet optics espied it.
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    <published>2006-06-26T11:25:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2006-06-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Justthisguy</name>
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        The fasces were borne by the lictores, symbolizing their power to punish by beating with rods, or by cutting heads off with axes. There are representations of fasces in the U.S. Congress&apos; chamber; you can see them if you have C-SPAN. Oh, JoA, what&apos;s in the Cox box beyond the battleaxes? Got some vintage TeeDees? Nah, prolly just 290s.

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    <published>2006-06-26T04:21:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from TZUSMC on 2006-06-24</title>
    <author>
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        I knew what fascines were, just never knew their name before.  However, that word, and the term fascist came from the fasces which were an ancient Roman symbol of power.  When a Consul was appointed in the Roman Republic as a symbol of his power a bundle of sticks with an axe in it was borne before the consul&apos;s column.  This bundle was called the fasces and symbolized the strength of all the members of the nation bound into one with the axe for war.  This later became for obvious reasons the symbol of the Fascists, but it is also contained in many US governmental signs.  For example the US Naval Academy crest has a trireme flanked by two fasces superimposed over a trident and various other heraldic symbols.
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    <published>2006-06-24T07:28:52Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2006://1.5976-comment:46901</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Well, I *did* import that really old stuff.

But in it&apos;s day - it wasn&apos;t crap...
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    <published>2006-06-23T12:27:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Trias on 2006-06-23</title>
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        Wow that really *is* old.  Pre Independance old.  Make me wonder what sort of crap really old countries have floating around.
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    <published>2006-06-23T12:00:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from JimC on 2006-06-22</title>
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        Like I said, Damn spell checker.  Gabion it is.  However, I have seen Gambion in a lot of places.  There seems to be a small underground sect of gambion believers which I must have been channeling this morning.

I did enjoy generating a bit of controversy, but I guess I&apos;ll just add Hesco to my vocabulary and let it go at that.  




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    <published>2006-06-22T22:22:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[Why d'you think the Arsenal is full of Old Tech?

In <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/09490E16228E057/standard.jpg" rel="nofollow">some cases</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/0BD5311F41B649D/standard.jpg" rel="nofollow">really old tech</a></b>.]]>
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    <published>2006-06-22T20:42:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Gwedd on 2006-06-22</title>
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        John,

  *sigh*... sadly, I am a veritable font of useless 19th century military knowleadge. Occasionaly I can make a few drinks off of it at the bar, but otherwise it&apos;s limited to impressing the school kids and teachers during my ACW seminars.

   However, if we lose technology as we know it, then I&apos;m all set.....:)

   Respects,

     AW1 Tim
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    <published>2006-06-22T20:29:25Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-22</title>
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        And AW1 Tim inspires the muse...
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    <published>2006-06-22T20:12:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Gwedd on 2006-06-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[Comrades,

    Indeed, they would be called Gabions, and were still in use at Petersburg during the Civil War. FWIW, Gabions were constructed with a special bill hook called a "fascine knife" a drawing of which may be found here:

<a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/avalonforge/MainTools.htm" rel="nofollow">http://mywebpages.comcast.net/avalonforge/MainTools.htm</a>

    Fascine of course were bundles of small saplings and sticks given to sappers to fill in enemy moats and trenchwork so that columns of men and/or horse-drawn artillery could pass over to support an attack. Even the Romans made use of them, and they became famous later as the symbol of the Italian Dictator Mussolini's party and forver gave their name to history as...wait for it... Fascists!

   Respects,

     AW1 Tim]]>
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    <published>2006-06-22T20:05:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2006-06-22</title>
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        <![CDATA[1. Faggots are meant for burning.
2. Unless they are being assembled into a "fascine".
3. There is no 'gambion' in the dictionary.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabion" rel="nofollow">Gabion</a>


Cheers]]>
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2006-06-22</title>
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        ...and your point is?
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    <published>2006-06-22T16:25:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from David M on 2006-06-22</title>
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        I&apos;d have to agree with JM and JimC he would use a Gambion.  They are in use today around bridge abuttments to control erosion and run off as well as re-enforcing slopes where erosion might occur. Todays method consists of a rock filled basket of iron meshwork.

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    <published>2006-06-22T16:20:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-06-22</title>
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        Hmmm, MajMike, you make him sound like a homophobic cat...
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    <published>2006-06-22T16:07:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2006-06-22</title>
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        1. I&apos;d call it a &quot;gabion&quot;.
2. I&apos;d make it of wicker, filled with &apos;locally sourced materials&apos;.

Cheers
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    <title>Comment from MajMike on 2006-06-22</title>
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        well, since he&apos;s obviously French, couldn&apos;t he just throw up a bunch of faggots into a palisade?
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    <title>Comment from JimC on 2006-06-22</title>
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        Or as the Armorer tells me I meant it a Gambion.  Damn spell checker never picks out wrong correctly spelled words.
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        Monsieur Le Marechal Vauban would have called in a Gambion.

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