We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:53:45 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Let's talk about Colonel Janis Karpinski and what this wretched example of the Officer Corps is up to. She has a book out. One Woman's Army. I haven't read it, I'm not sure I'll have the stomach to wade through it. I might have to go see if the local library has it, as I'm not sure I want to contribute to the financial health of this pathetic example of an officer totally unable to accept responsibility for her failures in command. Mind you, even though we finally have a LTC being charged over Abu Ghraib, I'm *still* looking for... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:20:47 -0600 ...and then drop me a line for the "Paul Harvey" on this one. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44639 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44639 Mon, 01 May 2006 08:42:43 -0600 Triticale - for $3 used, since she won't see a dime of it and I *did* pick on her... oh why not. If nothing else, she may name some targets I'd like to see in the dock with her. Because I'd like to see her in the dock for dereliction. General's don't get to use the "But I wasn't experienced enough for the job!" excuse. That's what having a staff is for. So, we'll see what she offers as evidence that she did due diligence and was stymied at every turn. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44635 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44635 Mon, 01 May 2006 06:21:03 -0600 I noticed the book just today on the display table at the library, and decided after a brief moment's thought that I really had no interest in what she had to say. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44632 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44632 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:10:11 -0600 John, that is just so creepy. Just the other day the Engineer and I were discussing Karpinski (without horking all over the kitchen)and I off-handedly commented that she would prolly write about about her 'experiences' in the Army and it would become a hiss and a byword...but oh that is so WIERD... I need to check my crystal ball and have my charkas aligned. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44574 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44574 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:44:32 -0600 SigO- that convention of the conversational use of General has long been the norm in the publishing industry... unless the GO in question insists on proper usage. Obviously Karpinski didn't, whether by commission or ommission. HL- When I put that eagle on her collar, I actually used a photo of black subdued pin-on, and I didn't even try to mess with the other collar point. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to find any MP pistols from *that* angle! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44563 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44563 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 09:20:30 -0600 On principle..the cover is wrong for another reason... Even if the subject of the book WAS a flag officer...a one-star General is "Brigadier General". The term "General", when used in a title, is reserved for the four-star variety. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44560 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44560 Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:05:11 -0600 When you say a "used" copy, in what manner has it been "used". I have a few sugestions. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44557 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44557 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:42:53 -0600 You know, maybe it's just me, but I was under the impression that the color of the rank had to match the color of the NAME/US ARMY and the qual badges. I've seen all black, I've seen all brown...never seen a mix. I don't have a current AR 670-1 handy. And no John, I don't blame you...it's on the original book cover. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44555 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44555 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:58:32 -0600 Well, the VFW *was* heavily involved in this one, and their National Headquarters is in KC... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44553 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44553 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:12:16 -0600 Barb, Sure hope you can get to the next one. I think maybe John and Beth should arrange for it to be near Ft. Leavenworth. With a Castle crawl afterwards.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44552 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44552 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:57:44 -0600 Yes'm, I sure hope to be. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44549 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44549 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:18:35 -0600 Barb - The conference was nothing! You should have heard it after several Cape Codders during the pub crawl! But there is always next year and you had better be there! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44544 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44544 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:24:33 -0600 Aaaaand, I found a copy of her book available, used, for $3.55 I'll read that one and see what she has to say. Obviously, she has an uphill battle. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44543 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44543 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:57:22 -0600 LOL - hey, I didn't say I believed them ** MYSELF ** !!! Oh, there's a number of them out there. My personal favorites are the ones linking Boorda's death with those of Vince Foster and Ron Brown, and those about Clinton's transfer of weapons technologies to Red China. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44542 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44542 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:27:30 -0600 I'm sorry, Frank - I'm having trouble hearing you over the "Twilight Zone" theme music playing when I read that comment... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44541 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44541 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:18:55 -0600 http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/assassinations/clintonbc/boorda.txt I'll just excerpt this portion for convenience: ==================== Part 4. Adm Boorda's "suicide" - A Filegate connection? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- :)5.) Anyone who is being considered for the job of CNO - or any other job :)of that magnitude - is investigated throughly. Lie detector tests, :)background screening, etc. Yet, investigations that are known to uncover :)even the minutest of details - employment of illegal aliens as maids 30 :)years ago, smoking of one joint in college - did not uncover the :)apparent discrepancy in the records - and the records were there all the :)time. Why not? I had to quote myself on this one to provide background. First, let me say UPFRONT AND OUT LOUD this is pure speculation and a hunch. Okay, so stand by: If the WH keeps innuendo files on everyone close to the WH, then it *had* to have Adm Boorda's file. The press reports are that the stories have been circling D.C. for quite some time that senior Pentagon officials wore ribbons they were not entitled to wear. I would expect that this is *just* the type of rumor that might land in Adm Boorda's FBI innuendo file. Q: Who had access to this file? A: WH/Clinton/Livingstone/Marceca and apparently a zillion other Clintonistas - no security. IF, the rumor was in the file, IF, Adm Boorda drew a line in the sand, IF, the WH wanted him to keep toeing the Clinton line, What might they do with the innuendo file information on the ribbon? Leak it to the press as a warning not to rock the boat? Trento of NSNS says the info on the "Vs" came from a "Charles Thompson" a producer at "60 Minutes" who had since left that organization. Thompson has yet to be interviewed by the press on where the info came from, not that he divulge it anyway. BUT, put 2 and 2 together ... Rumor+FBI innuendo file+WH+Boorda taking a stand=LEAK? That's *if* Adm Boorda took a stand on some latest Clinton order and said "NO!" ... and I feel in my heart he did. Was the order the firing of Adm "Snuffy" Smith, NATO commander in Bosnia? Adm Smith is highly respected in the Navy. The announcement of his firing occurred just weeks after Adm Boorda's death - coincidence? The Clinton plan wasn't working - the scandals showed it over and over again. Change was too fast and too radical and the harassment, sex, accidents, cheating scandals were saying that! It was *his* Navy, it was over 200 proud years old and Clinton/Shroeder were killing it. Almost like a father deciding to protect he needed to protect his cubs - "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or of the one." =====================]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44537 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44537 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:04:16 -0600 And what motive is advanced for murdering a CNO? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44536 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44536 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:50:31 -0600 John, Boorda's suicide does seem a bit extreme, especially for a man who was dynamic and capable enough to rise through the ranks as he did. And then there are those who don't think it was a "suicide" at all. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44532 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44532 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:34:11 -0600 "Instead, she's the poster child of today's culture of "victimization" and "entitlement", where no one accepts responsibility for his or her own culpability, and suffers no shame." In total agreement with this sentiment. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44528 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44528 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:15:07 -0600 Frank - while I agree, I think Admiral Boorda took his responsibility a little too thoroughly. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44525 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44525 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:58:33 -0600 Karpinski is no Boorda, that's for sure. Instead, she's the poster child of today's culture of "victimization" and "entitlement", where no one accepts responsibility for his or her own culpability, and suffers no shame. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44523 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44523 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:53:31 -0600 Good photo-shopping, John! Fooled me on the wings :-) Maggie - I can almost hear you sayin' it! (Yess, I caught your appearance at the conference ... *grin*) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44519 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44519 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:39:48 -0600 Geez, MMİ. Does *no one* read what I write anymore? Shall I just do a picture blog? What part of the last line of the post is confusing...? Help me out here, folks! 8^ D http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44517 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44517 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:20:10 -0600 You forgot to strike the General at the top too. "The Commanding *Colonel* of Abu Ghraib..." http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44516 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44516 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:43:52 -0600 OK, we'll go with the snotty Boston accent for this on.............Janice Karpinski is a "HOSSIS AHHSS" (horse's ass) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44515 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44515 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:30:49 -0600 Barb - just to be clear - I put the Eagle on her collar. The actual book cover has a star (click the link to the book to see the original). I shoulda been more obvious, I guess. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44514 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44514 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:37:03 -0600 That's disgusting! There she is in the picture with Colonel's wings for all to see, putting the lie right to the words. What an a$$. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44512 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44512 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:39:26 -0600 Damn straight. She is SO messed up it's not even funny. She's an embarassment to the Army and the US, but it's unlikely she'll ever know it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44510 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/04/speaking_of_generals_colonels.html#comment-44510 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:30:07 -0600