We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:12:14 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification ...just to annoy Ry. Something else that will appear. Whenever I finish it. But hopefully this week. A wholly unverifiable, but interesting, war story.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:39:01 -0600 Allright Ry, you win. Mountbatten was an incompetent asshole. Where was the IRA when they were needed? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39863 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39863 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:40:43 -0600 "Don't be too hard on Mountbatten. It's all easy when you look back at it - and the hard lessons learned at Dieppe were put to use in Normandy." Yeah, I've heard this before. But, if you send troops into an op where you know they're going to get creamed because somebody talked about it, and you know it's been leaked, aren't you failing them somehow? The lessons could've been, and were, learned elsewhere. Nobody in the European theatre seems to have talked to the Marines and Army in the Pac Theatre who had lots of experience with Amphib Ops by that time. Dieppe was a waste of good troops for knowledge that was in hand elsewhere, in my totally amateur opinion. Though Mountbatten does get props for greenlighting the Cockleshell missions, he's still on the hook for what he did to the Canucks at Dieppe. (Christ, Bills vision is several orders of magnitude better than mine. This sucks. (whine) I don't want to see JMH's prescription(shudder--since that's what lays in my future)). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39859 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39859 Tue, 31 Jan 2006 04:25:53 -0600 ROME, Ga. - University of Georgia archaeologists have been puzzling over finding an apparent manmade object buried in a historic Civil War cemetery. Sign that writer up as a captioneer on AKO.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39845 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39845 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:44:31 -0600 "objects" in the Myrtle Hill Cemetery? Might be the rumored Noble Brothers cannons but I'm betting on cast-iron coffins. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39836 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39836 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:07:13 -0600 You gotta be shih-tzn me now. Everyone knows that the only thing a shih-tzu is good for is disturbing dust under a bed. Unless of course you have them bronzed, then they will loosen up powder lead and copper, with the proper bore cleaner of course. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39833 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39833 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:59:03 -0600 Hmmm. Doesn't sound like you'd get much of anything out of it... Didja ever try using a shih-tzu for something other than a bore cleaner? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39832 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39832 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:55:34 -0600 Well it's a matter of how old and large the standard is. A full sized average standard it kinda just tips over. (Visual of cow tipping here) A toy is another matter. If it is battery powered, you get one distance. If it is an old fashioned cogs and wheels wind up one, it's another. The average for a battery powered one is about three revolutions. (Visualize three tocas over tea kettle tumbles here) The old cog and wheels model will make an average of 7 tumbles iffen you hit a gear. Jeez I gotta splain everything here. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39831 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39831 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:44:24 -0600 Jim - Never tried shooting poodles. Just out of curiosity, how far *will* an M-16 lob a Standard as opposed to a Toy? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39829 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39829 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:20:01 -0600 http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20060127.aspx Now if we can just get rid of that Poodle Shooter.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39820 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39820 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:09:53 -0600 Wait till you go 20/250 and 20/400, and do IA stuff for a living ... I am definitely not in that photo. Cheers JMH http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39817 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39817 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:27:12 -0600 Heh. I got my AARP card--I can complain about my vision all I want. It used to was 20/15 about twenty years ago and now it's 20/23. Drat. At this rate, I'm gonna have to get bifocals in another fifteen years or so... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39814 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39814 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:54:49 -0600 Wermacht troops are too relaxed to be near an ongoing fight, 3. the POWs look too fresh to have been chased all over France for a month and they still have their tin hats. Ergo, Dieppe.]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39813 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39813 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:29:01 -0600 Heh. Ry, When yer as old as me, much less Bill, and had any interest in milhist (especially disasters) you'd recognize the photo. Don't be too hard on Mountbatten. It's all easy when you look back at it - and the hard lessons learned at Dieppe were put to use in Normandy. Still, expensive in terms of good troops, especially for the Canadians. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39809 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39809 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:59:53 -0600 Holly Crap. How can you tell that those are Canadian troops and that that's Dieppe(damn Mountbatten)? Shiite, I don't wanna hear The Chief complain about his vision no more. Make him stop John. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39806 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39806 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:46:06 -0600 Captain H was at Dieppe? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39803 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39803 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:35:19 -0600 And Ry - that bit of vaporware *will* be what you're after - more history than Armory. But remember - I generally eschew the weapons that were built and put into storage, so that they are all pretty and pristine. I want ones that have seen use. It may be squandering Prodigal Son's Patrimony by not buying *Investment Quality* arms - but screw that, I want weapons with some history to 'em. And these do. The background photo is a hint. One that I'm sure CAPT H can figure out. Besides, I'm getting better with Photoshop. Note I used a relative term, not an absolute. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39799 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39799 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:29:25 -0600 I've been getting pinged about the history of ammo, too. Problem is - this place consumes resources, and doesn't produce any of the variety that would buy the time it takes to do those bits. The longer I try to manage this place the greater understanding I have for people who write books in their spare time (vice the authors who are good/popular enough) that all they have to do is write. If all I had to do was write... but, I don't think I can turn this thing into a paying proposition that I can stop doing that old day job thing. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39798 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39798 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:23:48 -0600 Translation from collitch kid tawk: He wants to see more of the *Castle* Collection. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39795 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39795 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:54:42 -0600 What, you expect me to be Donald Duck or something? Exposes of the Fiddly Bits are interesting(heh, who ever thought you could learn how to disassemble a firearm on the internet?) and informative, but I'm still waiting for end of the series that's more history than armory. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39794 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/vaporware_from_the_armorer.html#comment-39794 Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:51:23 -0600