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The Soldier's Load.

Air Force Enlisted Tactical Air Controller (ETAC) resting whle moving with his supported unit in Iraq.

Given the way the comments moved [well, the *serious* comments] in my Any Soldier, Any Era post, this is probably a good time to drag something up out of the archives.

The Soldiers Load, Part 1..

The Soldier's Load, Part II.

And it ain't just our Army, either. Any soldier. Any era. Just ask these Canadians.

English/AnglaisAPD02 5000-210March 15, 2002 Shah-i-Kot Valley, AfghanistanIn the mountains of Paktia Province east of Gardez, members of an anti-tank team from the 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (3 PPCLI) Battle Group take a much-needed rest on the trail. The oxygen-poor atmosphere of 3,000 metres is very hard on these soldiers, who carry particularly heavy loads of weapons and ammunition. They are engaged in Operation HARPOON, the Canadian Army's first non-defensive combat mission since the Korean War, which is itself a component of Operation ANACONDA, a major US-led assault on Taliban and al-Qaeda positions. The 3 PPCLI Battle Group is deployed in Afghanistan on Operation APOLLO, Canada's military contribution to the international campaign against terrorism.Photo by Cpl Lou Penney, 3 PPCLI

Update: Speaking of those Canadians in that pic above - CAPT H provides this link to one Canadian Soldier's response to the issues laid out above.

Discuss amongst yourselves... Heh. Again, acting in my role as CAPT H's clerk... he offers up this.

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Which is why I like to have a tank available to carry my daypack. Cheers JMH
 
Hey - *this* soldier never walked to a fight he could ride to - and *never* walked *in* a fight he didn't *have* to! I should add - however sexy *arriving* at a fight under a bedsheet or hopping out of a helicopter is... you're still mounted in leather personnel carriers... and have to wait for a taxi.
 
Well, seeing as how this guy is an Airman, "not walking when you can ride" is even more relevant. Heh. God bless the ETAC!! Dusty
 
Non grunts eh? There is a toast in the Army .... it goes like this. Gentlemen a toast, Field Artillery. Field Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl. Well in the Marines there is an answering toast. Gentlemen a toast, Infantry. Infantry lends a dash of vulgarity to what would otherwise be a very stuffy affair. Cheers.
 
And yer point, Jim? Dusty - I've loved that pic since the day I first saw it. Perfect encapsulation of the Life of the Grunt. Regardless what the service tape says.
 
If you are a grunt. Or even a higher life form such as an Arty FO, you are gonna wear everything you have. People have written so much about the load of the soldier, that if you printed it all out and stuffed it in some kinda super pack, the normal grunt could not pick it up. However the load has never decreased. The worst case is cold weather. A unit with no inherent Motor T either carries it or does without. I have mentioned it before but I think that the book, "Not a good day to die". is a classic example of lite infantry to the extreem. Carrying too much. Air lifted in. No Artyllery. No motor T. Winter, cold, and 10,000 feet up. Hell even the Taliban had artie and transport in places. Light Infantry is a contradiction of terms. It is a think tank concept. It does not exist. Reality will always interrupt it. Then we have all the over loaded problems, lack of mobility, exhaustion, hypothermia,spinal cord injuries etc due to carryin all that stuff. There is no light infantry. Unless adequate portage is present .. mules (yuck) jeeps hummers trucks etc to haul the stuff. Helos don't get it.
 
Helos don't get it. Tsk. Spoken like a grunt who's never experienced Superior Tactical Support. Check the initials on the patch, Jim. We counted Marine Tiger Teams, SEALs, Pathfinders, LRRPs and most A-Teams in the 5th SF as satisfied customers. And when they request you by name, *that's* a satisfied customer...
 
Helos obviously are required. Helos of all persuasion. What I should have said is that grunts need resupply. Most times helos are over tasked and tied up with priority missions. Yes they can resupply. They cannot carry equipment and supplies for grunts on the ground. Trucks, old time Marine Corps mules (mechanical) or real mules can work in mountains. A helo mission dumps supplies. Then what? Light Infantry has to hump that stuff too. It does not lighten their load. I totally sympathise with that grunt in the first photo. His ass is draggin. Look at that expanse behind him. Now mortars hit and a MG opens up. He has to move and move fast. Step one, dump the trash and dash. Mortars and MG's work over the troops and their dumped packs. Back to resupply, and hump.
 
The Superior Tactical Support explanation was for the benefit of the "O-6 And Higher" bunch who asked. The grunts knew what it *really* meant--one of 'em said: "When I looked around and saw how friggin' *small* that LZ was and how much crap the gomers were throwing at us, I thought we were all dead. But you guys came in and got us, slicker than sh*t!"
 
Sometimes being requested by name was a real pain! Got us in trouble more than once. Seems if it was easy, any ole chopper will do. If it was gonna be a sh&tstorm call the Vultures! It did have some good moments, tho. The nurses at Naby Binh Thuy, could have gotten any form of transport they liked for their jaunts to Vung Tau, but they called for the Vultures. It wasn't the clean and well maintained Hueys tho. I'm convinced it was the dashing, debonair and extremely handsome Vulture peelots. :-)
 
Jim - You call, we haul. And put your stuff right where you want it. But since the rest of 'em are close to *my* age, too, it's gonna take us a while to get out to the aircraft. Dang walkers keep hangin' up on the PSP...
 
Anybody notice that that poor bugger doesn't even have his IBA on? Can't tell if it's strapped somewhere on that big pile of equipment he's carrying or not. "You can tell an Airborne Ranger by his ruck...by his ruck, You can tell an Airborne Ranger by his ruck. It's as big as truck, And it's heavy as f**k, You can tell an Airborne Ranger by his ruck."
 
lol
 
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But the rosé goes particularly well when the road pizza is completely unidentifiable...
 
Heartless Libertarian>> While i'm not belittling that mans workload at all, I would like to point out that the picture isn't quite what you think at first glance. There are THREE soldiers in that picture. Two in green, and the man in the foreground. Possibly a fourth fellow in sand camo in the background. I can't tell if that's a rock, or a leg. I'm pretty sure rocks don't wear boots, so yeah, four men in the picture.
 
Excellent point, MCart - I was after the exhaustion, and forgot all about the other guys in the pic.
 
Mmmm...peanut noir....
 
From the "he offers this." "During Operation Desert Shield, a brigade conducted a live fire training assault to seize a bridge. The brigade commander noticed that the equipment the soldiers carried was interfering with the accomplishment of their mission. At the after action review he directed the battalion commander to investigate the weight the soldiers carried in their battalions. At the briefback one commander indicated that the average soldier in his battalion carried more than 100 pounds." AND THIS: Marshall noted that the infantryman is "a beast of burden" but that his chief function in war does not begin until he delivers that burder to the appointed place. His load should therefore be light enough to enable him to fight unimpaired when he arrives at the field of battle. In the past, this has not always happened. Marshall contended, for example, that during the assault on Normandy, the troops were slow coming off the beaches because they were exhausted from their heavy loads. BOTTOM LINE: We just don't learn in spite of all the papers written.
 
jim b looks at April, and March, then May, blinks three times and rigs April up an IV of peanut noir.
 
In the fall of 1983 I was a Sergeant (E-5) assigned to the anti-tank platoon (TOW) of Combat Support Company, 3rd Battalion, 325th Infantry, in the 82nd Airborne Division. When we were alerted to deploy to Grenada in late October, our battalion commander elected to deploy only a part of our company. The company headquarters and the scout platoon would deploy with their full equipment minus vehicles, and the anti-tank platoon would re-equip as a 50-man dismounted rifle platoon and deploy as the battalion reserve. Our 4.2” mortar platoon would be left behind at Fort Bragg. When landed in Grenada late in the afternoon of the first day of Urgent Fury, my ALICE rucksack weighed somewhere between 75 and 85 pounds. As soon as we were able to establish an assembly area on the edge of the new airfield at Pt. Salines, we were directed by our First Sergeant to strip everything out of our rucks except our toilet kits, one towel, one change of underclothing, three pairs of socks, a poncho liner, a poncho, an entrenching tool, four C-rations, and our extra ammunition. Everything else we put into an issue waterproof bag, labeled the bags with our last names and SSN’s, and then we cached the bags in a thicket. This reduced the load in my ruck to about 35-40 lbs. What I carried thereafter, other than my skivvies, a set of BDU’s, and my boots, was: M-16A1 rifle with loaded 30-rd magazine Kevlar Helmet Kevlar flak jacket ALICE-style LCE, with 2 ammo pouches, each with 3 loaded 30-rd M16 magazines 2 frag. grenades 1 ammo pouch with 3 loaded .45 cal magazines 2 1-qt canteens with water 1 holster with loaded M1911A1 .45 cal pistol 1 M7 bayonet with scabbard 1 lensatic compass 1 angle-head flashlight 1 first-aid pouch with 2 field compresses ALICE Large rucksack, with: 1 toilet Kit 1 towel 1 pr skivvy shorts 1 green t-shirt 3 pr socks 1 poncho 1 poncho liner 630 rd 5.56mm ball in bandoliers 1 M72A2 LAW 1 M18A1 Claymore mine 1 2-qt canteen with water 4 C-rations 1 entrenching tool 1 BDU cap 1 pr black leather gloves Even that reduction in load wasn’t all that helpful once we started climbing up into Grenada’s central massif. (A good real estate agent in Grenada can sell both sides of the same acre on some of those hills…) I am part of SLAM’s choir when it comes to the issue of overloading the infantry soldier.
 
Another point that I think needs to be made: the guys in uniform that I work with in the 3rd Brigade of the 101st who were in Afghanistan in 2002 have nothing but nice things to say about the Princess Pats. No matter what people in the news media and the governments are snarling at each other across the border, the Canadian Forces still have some damned fine soldiers serving in 3 PPCLI. I've yet to find anyone who worked with them who doesn't admire and respect them, and the Rakkasans thought highly enough of them that they requested (and received,) permission to include the names of the Canadians' dead along with our own on our regimental war memorial.
 
All that weight, and in the heat, that is a very respectable task. Is there a regulation stipulating how much weight load a soldier in a combat area can carry? Raymond B www.voteswagon.com
 
Marius' Mules. Oh, Jim B., see my new (temporary) name. Gotta love them Hun wines, even when they bad. Snork.
 
Hey, "Corky" - didja get enough balsa to make something for Neffi?
 
Gen Marshall derived much of his data in "A Soldier's Load" from a monograph "The Load of a Soldier", written by Maj N.V. Lothian of the Royal Army Medical Corps, published in 1922. The monograph discusses the probable loads carried by foot soldiers from antiquity (the Roman Army) to the present (1WW). His finding was that, while the soldier may have carried heavy loads on an approach march (c.60lbs), these were rapidly reduced to the minimum for battle. As for Marius's Mules, the Romans stopped short of overloading their soldier, the massive loads often quoted being based on mis-translations. His major discussion is based on studies performed by the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute following the Franco-Prussian War. Basically, the rule-of-thumb of "one third of the soldier's weight" as the maximum load can be traced to these studies. More importantly, the studies pointed out that training does not increase the load a soldier can comfortably carry beyond c.40% of body weight. Having checked, I have just repeated my remarks from 11 Mar 04. Also, that Gen Marshall was led to this study via correspondance with Capt B.H. Liddell-Hart in 1949. Cheers JMH
 
Chief, I'd like to be nice to Neff Chief, I'd like to be nice to Neff Chief, I'd like to be ni Chief, I'd like to be nice to a certain person, but, alas, the rebuild that BCR did on me forces a reset on my brain when I start to think about a certain person who trusts his pale tender body to un-certified airplanes whose structure and airfoil section selections would have provoked belly laughs among the aeromodellers not so long ago.
 
Raymond B asked "Is there a regulation stipulating how much weight load a soldier in a combat area can carry?" Nope. I've been hanging round the Army since 1978, and I've yet to see one. It's entirely a unit leadership issue: the unit's leaders decide what their soldiers will have to carry. Under the new force structure, in theory there shouldn't be a problem. The standard "light" infantry battalion MTOE now includes a transportation platoon with 20 M1078 2 1/2 ton trucks in the Forward Support Company. If and when the Army gets around to issuing all those vehicles to the FSC's, hauling the sustainment loads for the rifle companies isn't going to present too much of a difficulty. It's when the units get sent forward 60km by helo, and the trucks CAN'T reach them, that load problems surface. And let's face it, it's ALWAYS easier to get lift assets to assault into an area than it is to get lift assets to resupply the troops once they are on the ground. Not that we have that much lift to go around anymore. Under the old MTOE, the 101st had 3 infantry brigades plus division artillery and division troops, (a total of 19 non-aviation battalions,) which were supported by 9 UH-60 lift companies and 3 CH-47 lift companies. Now, under the new force structure, we have 4 infantry brigades, (and a total of 25 battalions,) which are supported by 8 UH-60 companies and 2 CH 47 companies. That's a bunch less lift, spread across more units. When I was in the 82nd, we routinely jumped 80-100 lb rucks into training exercises, and assumed that we'd be jumping 120-150 lbs into combat, because we knew from experience that we'd likely never see our "sustainment" package in any reasonable amount of time. When I went to Grenada in 1983 my company packed up all of our "sustainment load" in duffel bags and built a 463L pallet load out of them. 2nd Brigade was on the island for 10 days before we were relieved by 3rd Brigade and returned to Fort Bragg. Our duffel bags were eventually delivered to us in our unit area about three weeks after we got back. That was the first time we'd seen them since we left the unit area for the airfield at the start of the whole operation. In all of the years I've been in the Army I've seen one serious attempt to relieve soldiers in the field of the necessity of humping a rucksack. It failed miserably. This was a battalion ARTEP evaluation at Fort Campbell in the fall of 1984. The scenario involved locating, fixing, and destroying a number of insurgent groups. The plan was that the battalion reconnaisance platoon and each of the 9 rifle platoons in the battion would load all of their rucksacks into a cargo net which would be stored at the battalion field trains. The soldiers would then be able to maneuver easily and quickly carrying only their fighting load. Each evening the nets would be delivered to the platoons by helicopter, along with rations and water resupply and a hot meal. The platoons would then bivouac using the gear in their rucks, which would then be bundled back up the next morning and carted back to the rear, leaving the troops again in just their fighting load. Unfortunately, the first evening of the exercise, it began to rain, the temeperatures dropped into the mid-40's, the ceiling closed down to less than 100 feet AGL, and the choppers couldn't fly. And with the exception of one four-hour break midway through the eight-day exercise, it stayed that way the entire time we were out. And the unit had no contingency plan for getting the rucks forward to the troops. About the second or third time we had to ground-medevac a hypothermia case the brigade commander went ballistic and damned near cancelled the ARTEP and failed the battalion commander and S3. That unit never again went to the field without soldiers humping their own rucks.
 
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