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    <published>2006-01-10T05:59:24Z</published>
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    <title>Someone you need to meet</title>
    <summary>[Armorer&apos;s Note - this is an important story that too many people don&apos;t know. As it broke on a Friday night, and traffic is lower during the weekends, with many regular readers not checking back in until Monday - this post will remain up top through Monday night. New stuff comes in below. Bill picks up the story...] I would like to introduce you to someone: CW2 Hugh Thompson. A fellow helicopter pilot from my war... You probably don&apos;t recognize his name and you probably don&apos;t know what he did, but you will definitely recognize where and when he did...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><i>[Armorer's Note - this is an important story that too many people don't know.  As it broke on a Friday night, and traffic is lower during the weekends, with many regular readers not checking back in until Monday - this post will remain up top through Monday night. <b> New stuff comes in below.</b></i>  Bill picks up the story...] </p>

<p>I would like to introduce you to someone: CW2 Hugh Thompson. A fellow helicopter pilot from my war...</p>

<p>You probably don't recognize his name and you probably don't know what he did, but you will definitely recognize where and when he did it: My Lai, Vietnam--1968. </p>

<p>What would you call a man who saw his friends committing murder and risked his life to stop them? </p>

<p>Find out in the Flash Traffic/Extended entry.</p>]]>
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<p>From <a href=" http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/heroes/thompson.htm"><b>US News and World Reports</b></a>, August 20, 2004:</p>

<blockquote>Skimming over the Vietnamese village of My Lai in a helicopter with a bubble-shaped windshield, 24-year-old Hugh Thompson had a superb view of the ground below. But what the Army pilot saw didn't make any sense: piles of Vietnamese bodies and dead water buffalo. He and his two younger crew mates, Lawrence Colburn and Glenn Andreotta, were flying low over the hamlet on March 16, 1968, trying to draw fire so that two gunships flying above could locate and destroy the enemy. On this morning, no one was shooting at them. And yet they saw bodies everywhere, and the wounded civilians they had earlier marked for medical aid were now all dead.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>On that historic morning, Thompson set his helicopter down near the irrigation ditch full of bodies. He asked a sergeant if the soldiers could help the civilians, some of whom were still moving. The sergeant suggested putting them out of their misery. Stunned, Thompson turned to Lieutenant Calley, who told him to mind his own business. Thompson reluctantly got back in his helicopter and began to lift off. Just then Andreotta yelled, "My God, they're firing into the ditch!"</blockquote> 

<blockquote>Thompson finally faced the truth. He and his crew flew around for a few minutes, outraged, wondering what to do. Then they saw several elderly adults and children running for a shelter, chased by Americans. "We thought they had about 30 seconds before they'd die," recalls Colburn. Thompson landed his chopper between the troops and the shelter, then jumped out and confronted the lieutenant in charge of the chase. He asked for assistance in escorting the civilians out of the bunker; the lieutenant said he'd get them out with a hand grenade. Furious, Thompson announced he was taking the civilians out.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>Thompson coaxed the Vietnamese out of the shelter with hand gestures. They followed, wary. Thompson looked at his three-man helicopter and realized he had nowhere to put them. "There was no thinking about it," he says now. "It was just something that had to be done, and it had to be done fast." He got on the radio and begged the gunships to land and fly the four adults and five children to safety, which they did within minutes.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>Before returning to base, the helicopter crew saw something moving in the irrigation ditch–a child, about 4 years old. Andreotta waded through bloody cadavers to pull him out. Thompson, who had a son, was overcome by emotion. He immediately flew the child to a nearby hospital. Thompson wasted no time telling his superiors what had happened. "They said I was screaming quite loud. I was mad. I threatened never to fly again," Thompson remembers. "I didn't want to be a part of that. It wasn't war." An investigation followed, but it was cursory at best.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>A month later, Andreotta died in combat. Thompson was shot down and returned home to teach helicopter piloting. Colburn served his tour of duty and left the military. The two figured those involved in the killing had been court-martialed. In fact, nothing had happened. But rumors of the massacre persisted. One soldier who heard of the atrocities, Ron Ridenhour, vowed to make them public. In the spring of 1969, he sent letters to government officials, which led to a real investigation… </blockquote>

<blockquote>Not all soldiers at My Lai participated in the carnage. Some men risked courtmartial or even death by defying Calley's direct orders to shoot civilians. Eckhardt doesn't think these men were heroes, because they didn't try to stop the murderers. But Colburn thinks they did the best they could. "We could just fly away at the end of the day," he notes. The ground troops had to live together for months.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>Colburn and Thompson lived in relative anonymity until a 1989 television documentary on My Lai reclaimed them as forgotten heroes. David Egan, a Clemson University professor who had served in a French village where Nazis killed scores of innocents in World War II, was amazed by the story. He campaigned to have Thompson and his team awarded the coveted Soldier's Medal. It wasn't until March 6, 1998, after internal debate among Pentagon officials (who feared an award would reopen old wounds) and outside pressure from reporters, that Thompson and Colburn finally received medals in a ceremony at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.</blockquote> 

<blockquote>But both say a far more gratifying reward was a trip back to My Lai this March to dedicate a school and a "peace park." It was then they finally met a young man named Do Hoa, who they believe was the boy they rescued from that death-filled ditch. "Being reunited with the boy was just...I can't even describe it," says Colburn. And Thompson, also overwhelmed, doesn't even try.</blockquote> 

<p>Almost forty years ago, CW2 Hugh Thompson saw murder in the middle of a war and stopped it. Fewer than twenty hours ago, he died of cancer in the VA Hospital in Arlington, Virginia… </p>

<p>Now is the time at Castle Argghhh! when we dance, <b><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/echo taps.mp3">In Memoriam</a></b>.</p>

<p>To see the very tangible results of Chief Thompson's actions - <b><a href="http://www.ntcsites.com/acadianhouse/nss-folder/publicfolder/AHP/Forgotten_Hero/photographs2.htm">click here</a></b>.</p>

<p>If you want to learn more about Hugh Thompson - <b><a href="http://www.ntcsites.com/acadianhouse/nss-folder/publicfolder/AHP/Forgotten_Hero/news_release.htm">buy the book.</a></b></p>

<p>[First Time Visitors - you're welcome and encouraged to poke around in the corners.  We try to run a fun place that does a little educating and maybe a nice rant or two. <i><b>-Warning-</b></i> This is a memorial post - discussion of the war and My Lai is inevitable - but we've got rules here - discuss the message, don't attack the messenger.  Be polite. Others may feel it's bad form to delete comments, I have no such compunction.  I won't delete ones I disagree with the content, I'll delete hair-tearing, shirt-rending rants that spew vileness at other people.  Be polite (within the limits of a robust conversation, this isn't a graded debate)]</p>

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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2006-01-13</title>
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        Jim - Even if he was fired upon--which he wasn&apos;t--the guns wouldn&apos;t have rolled in without being specifically told 

a. that he *was* taking fire, 

b. where it was coming from, reference his aircraft and

c. if there were any friendlies or civilians in the area.

They were loitering about a klick away, keeping him in sight--when he called, they came.
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    <title>Comment from Justthisguy on 2006-01-13</title>
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        Sorry am so late to this- saw it when first posted but felt too shy to write here at the time.

 Nonetheless, when I first looked at that pic I thought, &quot;Here is the primal example of Kewl&amp;Manly appearance.&quot;


  Kewl&amp;Manly behavior, too, apparently.

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    <title>Comment from OD on 2006-01-13</title>
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        Yes, Thompson himself said there were good guys on the ground who just weren&apos;t in a position to stop it. In fact he said one infantryman blew off his own foot to get out of there.

I just wish that Ridenour had gotten the recognition he deserved...and that Calley and some others had gotten what they deserved.

In a way it was a missed opportunity. History is still waiting for an Army to properly clean up its own mess.

Jim: Re the gunships supporting Thompson, they did actually come down to lift civilians out of the danger zone when Thompson called them. 
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    <title>Comment from jim on 2006-01-13</title>
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        I rhought Thompson was part of a CAV hunter killer team. If he had been fired on it&apos;s a good chance the gunners would have come down to his defense.
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-01-12</title>
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        That said - I know personally of a Brigadier General, BG Young, an otherwise fine officer who was relieved and his career ended because he didn&apos;t find out about it and it happened on his watch.

He didn&apos;t order it, he investigated it when it *was* reported, and he was in the chain of command when it happened.

Not criminally liable, but paid as hefty a price as you could, publicly relieved of his command (not the job he had in Vietnam, but a subsequent command in Germany) and retired in disgrace.

Not all the &quot;blue&quot; casualties were obvious to outsiders.

And this isn&apos;t a &quot;I knew a guy who knew about it&quot; kind of story.  Young was commanding the Brigade my father was commanding a battalion in.
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        Owen - It&apos;s not news that he never forgave the Army, and it&apos;s understandable, too. Thopson *did* report it though--he assumed that the courts-martial took place quietly and the guilty were punished. Ridenour entered the picture because, when Thompson found out that no one had been brought to account, he raised Cain about it and Ridenour wrote the right words to the right people.

And John and I are in agreement that the crap rolled &apos;way too far downhill before it came to a stop.
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        <![CDATA[I saw Thompson interviewed on TV and never forgot him. What a great guy.

I'm pleased and surprised to see that American conservatives have come to recognise that Thompson was the hero, and not the villain he was portrayed as at the time.

It's worth remembering - you won't like this - that despite his Soldier's Medal, Thompson didn't forgive the Army, and said to the end of his days that My Lai was covered up, and people way above the rank of Lieut should have been charged.

He also said the medal ceremony was meaningless to him, when he compared it to a ceremony held at My Lai to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the massacre. A ceremony to which the Army sent no representative. In fact the Army has never publicly apologised for this massacre.

It's good that we can all now agree to praise Thompson, who was so badly treated at the time - both the Army and the public took Calley's side then. 

For me, the test is Ron Ridenour. This man's bravery is no less. Thompson stopped the massacre but didn't report it. Ridenour, a soldier serving in-theatre, found out about it from friends, gathered evidence and reported it to Congress. He was immediately and widely denounced as a traitor.

Without Ridenour, the truth would never have come out. Ridenour was even more reviled in public than Thompson was. His kind of heroism doesn't earn Soldier's Medals. His courageous work has never been recognised.

Ridenour's letter revealing My Lai to congressmen:

<a href="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/ridenhour_ltr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/ridenhour_ltr.html</a>

Not until men like Ridenour get the respect they deserve, can we be sure that black days like My Lai will never be repeated.]]>
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        Truong - Amen to that thought. Thank you.
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        A true hero like Hugh thompson will never die, he will always live on forever.
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        Sharon - The civilian outcry included input from then-Governor Jimmy Carter. Mr. Thompson didn&apos;t receive a Silver Star, according to his biographer. But the Soldier&apos;s Medal is for equivalent bravery.

Thanks for your comment! 
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    <title>Comment from sharon curtis on 2006-01-10</title>
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        Thank you for telling his story. As an American History student, I &quot;did&quot; a paper on this Mai Lai story, from start to finish. It was in Amer. Military class. I was the only female in the class of 300. 
But, to the point: The aftermath of the court martial was that the military wanted to really throw the book at Calley, complete with hard time in Levenworth. It was civilian outcry that gave him a rather lenient pass. 
And, it was my knowledge that Thompson recieved the Silver Oaks Cluster for his action, and within the decade as well. 
Correct me if I am wrong. 
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    <title>Comment from cw4billt on 2006-01-09</title>
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        War takes a rasp to the veneer of civilization which covers a man and scrapes until the solid metal which forms his soul is exposed. Most soldiers are iron or steel, a few--very few--are base metal.
And some are solid gold. They adhere to their values through the absolute worst that gets thrown their way and their souls survive untarnished...

It&apos;s fitting that most of the commentary about him is taking place on the internet rather than on television or in the newspapers. Hugh Thompson wasn&apos;t one for making noise in his own behalf and the web is a quiet medium...
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    <title>Comment from Ed FromWestSlope on 2006-01-08</title>
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        Fall of 1971, I was with the HHC 45th Engr Gp.
An Engineer Company was rebuilding the roads past My Lai and on to the north, to help resettle refugees. Their base was on a hill, overlooking the My Lai complex (I believe there actually 7 distinct villages). Just a grove of trees and the remains of the particular &apos;vil&apos;. The rest of the villages around had been removed by Land Clearing but, that one grove remained.

I spent many days at that base and always remember the grove of trees. Not our finest hour. 
But remember, we did something about it. And 34 yours later, we remember. 
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    <title>Comment from V29 on 2006-01-08</title>
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        This comment is from a Vietnam helicopter listserver. Bruce is a former Little Bird driver turned preacher. I liked his comment and secured his permission to post it here.

Friends:
Stimulated by a bit of  conversation that I had on one of the nets I hang around concerning less comment on Mr Thompson&apos;s death than might be expected from our circles, please allow me a moment for comment.
I said nothing because I fear my words inadequate for the moment and might only serve to cheapen. In the years that passed and in my own learning of Mr. Thompson&apos;s moral courage, I could only hold my head a little bit higher that I too had been a Warrant Officer Pilot. Yet, it also scared me to ponder if I too would have had such moral courage.
And so, from our midst has passed a soul which shone forth as a
bright light in a moment of great darkness. By association, we are
all lifted by this light. With great confidence, I can pass Mr. Thompson into the loving arms of God.
Bruce E. Carlson

 Lexington NE. 
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    <published>2006-01-08T17:50:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from pam on 2006-01-08</title>
    <author>
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        <uri>http://www.pamibe.com</uri>
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        Thank you to introducing me to Hugh Thompson, Bill.  Whatever I had heard about My Lai...  I never wanted to accept, if that makes sense.  But that there were heroes involved; yeah, I&apos;ll carry Thompson, Colburn and Andreotta with me from now on.

Rest well, Chief.  
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    <published>2006-01-08T14:06:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MCart on 2006-01-08</title>
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        Apologies, John. Feel free to delete my above post.
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    <published>2006-01-08T12:52:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MCart on 2006-01-08</title>
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        I don&apos;t mean to start a hate-fest or anything, but I would like to point out that I am unaware of any examples that John Kerry&apos;s Winter Soldier testimony ever &apos;followed him&apos; in a negative way politically, UNTIL he ran for President...

And that&apos;s about as far as I&apos;ll go with that, in this thread that has NOTHING to do with John Kerry...
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    <published>2006-01-08T12:50:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-01-08</title>
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        Sanger was writing his response while I wrote mine.  Please don&apos;t make this thread about Kerry.  That would just be... icky.
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    <published>2006-01-08T12:46:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2006-01-08</title>
    <author>
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        <uri>http://www.grandretort.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[I never went to Vietnam.  I just lived with a lot of the men who did for about 8 years before most of them who stayed in the Army left it.

None of those thousands of men were "animals," at least no more so than any of the other scores of thousands of people I've met in the past 30+ years.

This country did not make animals out of its men, and Kerry was a lying, bottom-feeding opportunist who it seems was using the war as a step toward his goal of becoming just like his hero Kennedy.  He lied about the himself and about the American soldiers who were in Vietnam, and his lies and those of his cronies did far more damage to this country than anything any American soldier ever did.

Which leads me to wonder, actually, what atrocities you committed Mr. Thornton.  Were you a baby-killer?  Did you rape and kill women and girls?  Did you murder civilians as they stood unarmed?  Were you a drug-crazed wanton murderer?

If not, then you might want to reconsider your admiration of Kerry because <i>you</i> are one of the people he was talking about when he lied in to Congress.   It doesn't matter what your job in Vietnam was because Kerry and his ilk painted with a very broad brush, telling the world and posterity that America was no different than all the fascist, totalitarian regimes it has ever fought.

For my part, I still think Kerry should be tried for perjuring himself before Congress, for slandering American soldiers (a class-action suit would be nice), and maybe even for treason.
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    <published>2006-01-08T12:39:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2006-01-08</title>
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        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        Just a cautionary note for people tempted to respond to Mr. Thompson&apos;s comments on Kerry, Ellsberg, et. al.

This is a Memorial Post, and I would rather keep it focused on Mr. Thompson and My Lai, and *not* get wrapped around certain political personalities, etc - or the Winter Soldier controversy.  If that is simply unavoidable - remember The Rulez: The Message, Not the Messenger.  No vile spewings, either.  
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    <published>2006-01-08T12:33:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from robert thornton on 2006-01-08</title>
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        i was in viet-nam 1967-1968 there when my lai happen.i also think what Thompson did was heroic.i also think what John Kerry did when he testified before congress about what the country did to make animals of the young and poor men that served in viet-nam was heroic,that followed him thoughtout his policial career ie.swift boat campain against him.most veterans don&apos;t want to admit what they had done and it anger them .Daniel Elsburg (for give my spelling)also is a hero for telling the truth about viet-nam knowing that he would face prison for discloser.i can&apos;t for the life of me understand why people in position of knowledge of lies don&apos;t have the courage to speak out when the lies are used to send young men to war and the ones who send them to war over lies should be sent to prison.there are many good men that don&apos;t have the courage that these men have and had.bless america
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    <published>2006-01-08T11:45:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MCart on 2006-01-08</title>
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        Bad Cat Robot&gt;&gt; Likewise, I never heard of this man before, having learned &apos;all I ever wanted to know about it&apos; from the Seattle Public School System.

I had NO IDEA..

Thank you Bill, for sharing this with us. I suppose I better order that book, so my kids will learn about people like Mr. Thompson as well.

So much history is lost, every day...
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    <published>2006-01-08T06:54:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Anna on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Anna</name>
        <uri>http://arosebyname.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Thank you for sharing his story. What he did took real courage.
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    <title>Comment from klkk on 2006-01-07</title>
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        I read about Thompson a few years ago when they had the ceremony giving him the medal. Way back when, I used to think Lt. Calley did nothing wrong. &quot;Hey, it&apos;s war.&quot; But the more I read, and the more I matured, the more I realized he WAS wrong. Thompson did a great thing. We need more like him in the military. Rest in Peace, Mr. Thopmspon.

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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2006-01-07</title>
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        I heard that broadcast too!  In fact, that was where I first heard the story!  I was totally shocked that NPR of all people would air the story, but whaddya know.
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    <published>2006-01-08T03:11:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
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        I was reading a book about the rush to Baghdad called &quot;Generation Kill&quot;.  The unit was taking a lot of fire and the order came down that anything that moved in the zone was considered a target.  The unit the writer was with had a lieutenant who directed his men to ignore that order and to know what they were shooting at.

I think that there are men like thompson all over who are willing make those distinctions, with honor and humanity.

they exist just as many or more than such creatures as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Stalin and even, unfortunately, Lt. Calley (who today, someone would notice that there was something wrong and take him off the line).  The unfortunate problem is that it seems to be the lunatic, egomaniacal murderer who gets power over millions and hundreds of thousands (sometimes millions) follow them.  I am always amazed, but feel equally comforted in many ways that men like thompson exist.
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    <title>Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2006-01-07</title>
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        I believe I actually heard Chief Thompson speak about his actions at My Lai, and (prepare yourself for a shock) it was on NPR.  What struck me most -- outside of the horrifying details that somehow never had made it into the Quik-notes version of the story -- was how *angry* he sounded when he mentioned Calley had never been punished.  It made me angry too.

Strange that NPR let it get out that an American stopped the slaughter and that some of the villagers survived.  Never heard that before that program.
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    <title>Comment from boinkie on 2006-01-07</title>
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        All it took was one man with courage...
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    <title>Comment from V29 on 2006-01-07</title>
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        In my heart, my mind, there can be no understanding or excuse for Lt. Calley. Dispatching one&apos;s armed enemies with  extreme prejudice is killing. Dispatching non combatants is murder, pure and simple! A distinction, but with a difference. His men would never have been prosecuted for disobeying an order to kill unarmed people. Every soldier has the right to refuse an unlawful order. So, even they cannot be excused and should have been prosecuted. Yes, I was angered when my comrades were killed and took my revenge whenever and wherever I found the opportunity. But, there are no circumstances where killing unarmed women and children can be excused, or explained away. My opinion and worth every penny you paid for it.
The stain this incident placed on the US Army will never fade, to Calley&apos;s eternal shame!
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    <title>Comment from Bill Faith on 2006-01-07</title>
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        I saw a short AP blurb on Hugh Thompson last night and linked it before I turned in, but I didn&apos;t know where to find as much information as I wished I had. I&apos;m glad to see someone did. I&apos;ll link to your post before I do anything else. I was just getting ready to graduate from High School when My Lai happened and didn&apos;t get to &apos;Nam till late &apos;71 but the effect My Lai had on the American psych definitely impacted my life. It&apos;s about time for the public to start learning more about men like Hugh Thompson and get over the notion that Lt. Calley was typical of our military in &apos;Nam. Thanks for a great post.

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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
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        Semper Fi, Chief Thompson...  Godspeed...
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    <published>2006-01-07T22:07:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2006-01-07</title>
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        well.  hell.
I hate losing Real Men like Thompson.  Men who aren&apos;t afraid to stick up for the right thing to do- even when it&apos;s not the popular or easy route to take.  

I do remember hearing about this story, but I honestly never thought a whole lot about it in recent years.  It&apos;s such a shame that his death is what is making me think about the story now.  

Thanks for posting this, Bill... no matter how hard it may have been to write the words.

(and on a side note, it saddens me that you would have to leave the &quot;be polite, or i&apos;ll delete your a$$hat comments&quot; note.  so sad.)
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    <published>2006-01-07T19:52:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cricket</name>
        
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        Thank you John, for bringing his story to light.
We heard so much of the bad, but none of the good.

I heard about him approx. five years ago and was stunned...mainly because One Would Think that
Biased Reporting Did Not Exist.

I would call him a hero.

Rest in Peace, Chief.
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    <published>2006-01-07T19:51:18Z</published>
    <updated>2006-01-07T19:51:18Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Wolfgang P. May on 2006-01-07</title>
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        <name>Wolfgang P. May</name>
        <uri>http://home.earthlink.net/~wolfgangpmay/</uri>
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        Those who have not served in combat fail to understand that war is, and has always been, an intensely personal experience. We react to the deaths of our friends and comrades based on our long-established moral values, and even then, anger and rage, which are often mistaken for heroism, create a propensity for outrageous deeds, which are much later a haunting memory, and a reason for sincere regret. Although I do not condone Lt. Calley&apos;s barbaric actions, I can understand the emotional forces which caused them. Calley was a weak man, obsessed by anger and possessed by fear, while Warrant Officer Thompson was able to overcome  these nagging destructive emotions and act with an undeniable courage and the intensity of his deeply rooted positive emotions to infuse, at least temporarily, an appreciation for the need of sanity, even during the grim business of killing our fellow human beings.  

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    <published>2006-01-07T19:27:39Z</published>
    <updated>2006-01-07T19:27:39Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2006://1.5088-comment:37944</id>
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    <title>Comment from Desult on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Desult</name>
        <uri>http://desultorybutterfly.blogspot.com</uri>
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        This gave me chills. I can&apos;t imagine the courage it took for CW2 Thompson, amidst the frightening chaos of all of that, to do what he felt was the only thing to do. What an honorable man. Thanks, Bill. It&apos;s good to remember these folks who stood in harms way to do the right thing.
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    <published>2006-01-07T18:17:39Z</published>
    <updated>2006-01-07T18:17:39Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
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        Excellent item, Bill - Thank you for introducing us to this fine man. 
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    <published>2006-01-07T17:10:05Z</published>
    <updated>2006-01-07T17:10:05Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
        <uri>http://www.grandretort.com</uri>
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        What FbL said, plus the once-again reminder that its exactly in in situations like this that a person&apos;s true mettle is revealed.  No thought, no need for a prod or a poke from behind, just doing what&apos;s right because it is so, without any real consideration or care about context or consequences!

These are the people who rush into fires, dive into icy rivers, or place themselves between the shooter and the shot-at.  These are the sheepdogs Lt. Colonel Grossman was talking about, and the finest kind of sheepdogs at that.

Men to wanna be like. . .

Thanks for the post.  I had no idea, and I&apos;ve read a little about My Lai.  Clearly not enough.


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    <published>2006-01-07T16:49:24Z</published>
    <updated>2006-01-07T16:49:24Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Fuzzybear Lioness on 2006-01-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Fuzzybear Lioness</name>
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        I didn&apos;t know the story of Thompson, Andreotta and Colburn before I read this.  My eyes are filled with tears.  There is a courage that is  more than physical... and they obviously had it.

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    <published>2006-01-07T13:15:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from V29 on 2006-01-07</title>
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        Mr. Thompson&apos;s quiet brand of heroism isn&apos;t the kind that we readily reward with medals and fanfare. He didn&apos;t kill the enemy. He saved the lives of non combatants and at great risk to his and his crew&apos;s lives. His actions, though most noble, went unrewarded for decades, while the Army tried its level best to forget the whole incident. His heroism was unsung in life and I suspect it will be so in death. Bravo to the bloggers who will note his passing and celebrate the man he was.
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    <published>2006-01-07T09:44:39Z</published>
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