We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:56:51 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Here's a story that will no doubt put some academic knickers in a twist - colleges and universities are actually coming to visit Fort Leavenworth to see how we're building the new classroom building for the Command and General Staff College - the Lewis and Clark Center. A moving target, pushing the state of the art as we go. I would note that the construction features mentioned have Oklahoma City, and not the New Madrid fault, in mind. The article here makes this sound almost like a new invention... I'm guessing the Vultures among us could rule on that -... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:27:40 -0600 Ummmm, ok, ry. That puts it in a different perspective. If he only means no parades in LA, I'll accept that. Still, I get the feeling that he would begrudge a veteran's parade anywhere. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39596 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39596 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:11:54 -0600 Okay, Stein's a twit. He's got his head so far up his behind he can taste his own tonsils. But, "But please no parades. Seriously, the traffic is insufferable.", is not self centered. Not in LA. I405 is a parking lot all day(I've been stuck there at 4am). THere isn't a period in the day when that freeway flows well at all once you get past Long Beach airport(transition from OC to LA). Much of LA is like that, even the surface streets. Remember, he lives in and writes primarily for a Los Angeles audience---it's a bit of local humor(ask Lex about the Tool song he loves to work out to so much. Like the song, it's just something you have to lived to get). Tie Stein to a chair fitted with three thousand bottle rockets so he can be the Chinese astronaut that he is, but don't bust him for using a local thing in an oped that ran in a local paper and you don't get. That isn't fair(and I think John says we believe in fair around here. Umpire?). Hold the parade in San Diego---they'd appreciate it---or San Francisco--where it'd piss them all off and nobody is supposed to drive anyways---or Orange County, where they miss having El Toro MCAS and would love to see some uniformed personel. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39583 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39583 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:43:00 -0600 Click here to see a Hook Hooking a Hook. 526 is still in the inventory, though upgraded and with a new tail number. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39539 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39539 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:39:28 -0600 From the Stein interview: "But please no parades. Seriously, the traffic is insufferable." This is just stunningly self-centered. I try to avoid name-calling, but, sheesh! What a whiny, sniveling, twit. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39536 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39536 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:13:33 -0600 was that: On Line Demand Failed Aircraft Recovery Team ? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39530 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39530 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:27:16 -0600 I never felt really comfortable doing slingloads. Never punched the load off by accident, either, but I know how it can happen... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39529 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39529 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:23:59 -0600 Oh, fine. *More* age snarks... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39528 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39528 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:16:29 -0600 Failed Aircraft Recovery Team The job stinks, but somebody's gotta do it.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39527 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39527 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:08:39 -0600 I have been there when helos have dropped stuff. I think my favorite was when they dropped the water buffalo from about 100 feet up. Biggestgoldanged water balloon I have ever seen. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39526 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39526 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:06:10 -0600 V29 - But Triple Nickel looked *soooo* graceful as it augered in. And you've gotta admit, the recovery straps streamered beautifully. I always wondered if the clevis survived the explosion... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39523 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39523 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:38:43 -0600 And now a politically incorrect light moment. In the Italian Army they have two size helos. The bigga ones ... they fly by and go ... WOP WOP WOP WOP. Anda the littla ones .... you can hear them as well.....ginnieginnieginnieginnie http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39519 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39519 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:27:30 -0600 I see Jim and I are connecting *waaay* to close for my comfort! Same time, same concept. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39518 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39518 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:27:15 -0600 *grin* Yep. I'll fix 'em right up.... no problema. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39516 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39516 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:23:38 -0600 Great concept.. I think. But, it's all for naught when the darn Hook boys drop the aircraft they are recovering. Saw it happen once. Not a nice sight! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39512 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39512 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:12:29 -0600 It's a brawl, it's vulgar! It's life on the edge! Cheers Basic Recovery of Aircraft Without Landings? JMH http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39511 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39511 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:10:53 -0600 Thought you were supposed to be lending *dignity* to this... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39509 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39509 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:03:33 -0600 Malfunctioning Aircwaft Wescue Kwew? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39507 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39507 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:57:56 -0600 What about Broken Airplane Repair Force BARF? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39505 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39505 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:55:34 -0600 Broken Aircraft Recovery Force. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39504 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39504 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:55:31 -0600 BART has too many overtones of the Simpsoms (although the patch would be a collector's item). We need to keep the acronym cool. *Dead* Aircraft Recovery Team... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39502 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39502 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:39:50 -0600 Up here, the DART has generally been the Disaster Assistance Relief Team. How about the Broken Aircraft Recovery Crew? Cheers JMH http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39501 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39501 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:32:48 -0600 I think we need to generate a number one Google hit for Joel Stein. How about "vacuous pretentious twit" for starts? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39500 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39500 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:31:46 -0600 Crocitto activated the Aircraft Support Equipment, or ASE platoon, May 31. The platoon was designed to focus entirely on DART missions, one of the company’s five Mission Essential Task List, or METL tasks. The DART concept is old, old, old. The team's first function is on-site band-aid application to try to get the ship flyable enough to limp home; if it's broken beyond that, the team rigs it for extraction by air or truck. Our Maintenance Platoon in RVN spent as much time slogging around in the paddies as some Infantry outfits, but DART was secondary to their primary mission of fixing broken birds. And in 2001, I rewrote our TF's DART SOP and got an attaboy for it when we were in Boz. What's new is that the 101st now has a DART that's got aircraft recovery as a *primary* mission--a DART is usually an ad hoc thing, since all mechanics are trained and briefed on what their duties would be should they be tapped for a recovery. When the siren goes off, Wrenchbender Six picks his team from whoever's available and they launch. In my old ARNG outfit, the DART was a mechanic, a Tech Inspector and (maybe) a test pilot. My take on this dedicated DART concept? It depends on how many aircraft the 101st has falling out of the sky each week. What's interesting is that the Maje grabbed the ASE folks. ASE stands, not for Aircraft Support Eguipment, btw, but for Aircraft Survivability Equipment--the mechanical and electronic countermeasures suites on the ships. That stuff takes a *lot* of TLC to keep it functional, especially in SWA. So the folks he grabbed are the unit technogeeks, with all that term entails. And if they're poking around broken--or shot-down--helicopters, then they're not PMing or testing or repairing the ASE, which, in turn, will lead to more broken or shot-down helicopters. MAJ Crocitto may just have invented the self-generating mission... ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39498 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39498 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:05:57 -0600 Major K called in to Hugh's show to discuss his reactions! That caused me to be a little late to a therapy session with BCR ;-) Anyhow, let's just say that he didn't have to describe the steam coming out of Major K's ears - especially regarding Stein's statement that he felt our troops in Iraq died in vain. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39496 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2006/01/military_news_of_note.html#comment-39496 Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:24:40 -0600