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The Army is worn out.

So sez Representative Murtha.

LATROBE, Pa. - Most U.S. troops will leave Iraq within a year because the Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth," Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) told a civic group.

You can read the whole thing here.

Hmmm. From where I sit, I see a different Army. I see one where some parts are more tired than others, having just returned from one of the boxes, but I don't find the grumpy, living hand-to-mouth Army Representative Murtha describes.

Are there challenges? Yep. Stuff is wearing out, and it's hard to keep up. Welcome to a war. To hear Mr. Murtha talk, we should have pulled out of WWII around, oh, 1943, certainly 1944.

I recently spent two weeks at Fort Benning, Georgia. Arguably the heart of the Army now fighting, being the home of the Infantry.

As a middle-aged fat guy with a beard, no uniform, I sat among the soldiers in all sorts of places - restaurants, fast food joints, bars, movie theaters, the mall, out in the field, in garrison... everywhere.

And they griped like soldiers griped. And they had war stories to tell. And some were going to get out. And some were worried they weren't going to be able to re-enlist without reclassing to a different MOS. Many were concerned about the stress on the family. But a surprising number of them also noted that they had it a lot better than their fathers/uncles/grandfathers had it in WWII, Korea, or Vietnam.

Some weren't all that crazy about Iraq, either. Some thought they had dumber-than-dirt NCO's and Officers. And listening to the stories - *some* of them did, though nowhere near as many as *thought* they did. And most of them knew that, too.

In other words, they were soldiers in an Army at War.

I heard bitching about how the war they see in the US is not the war they fought in Iraq, or even Afghanistan. In fact, many of them wonder how many people still know we've got people on the ground fighting in Afghanistan. And none of them knew who I was, only that I didn't look important, so they ignored me and talked.

I didn't see the Army Murtha describes. I see an Army that is meeting it's re-enlistment goals. An Army that is having trouble meeting it's new end-strength numbers, but if they hadn't been given the 50K increase they didn't ask for... they would be meeting their goals.

Has it occured to anyone that there might be a limit on how many people you are going to get to enlist - regardless? And that if you raise the bar high enough, well, yep, yer gonna fail. Of course, we did field an All Volunteer Army of over 745K when I was a Lieutenant... in an economy bequeathed us by Vietnam, Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter.

At work, I move amongst the core of the next generation of senior leaders - the Majors attending CGSC. We do studies and analyses of the Army and it's gear - now, next year, and in the relatively far future. In all my work there I find an Army that is very busy, and struggling to keep an eye on the future because of the present - but I don't see an Army living hand to mouth. Just one working flat-out.

The Reserve and Guard, there are some issues, and the study I'm going into will lead me down some of those paths. There are some real challenges there, right enough. But it wasn't just that part of the Army that Murtha was referring to. I just don't see the Army that Representative Murtha claims to see. Unlike Senator Kerry, whom *every soldier he's talked to has said we should leave Iraq* that simply isn't true for me. And I'm betting my sample is better than his.

Just sayin'.

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Democrats are worn out. Pass it on. Whatever happened to the Harry Truman / Scoop Jackson wing of the Democratic party?
 
My guess is "every soldier" John Kerry talked to were the very same fellas he spent Christmas in Cambodia with, being shot at by holiday-celebratin' drunken South Vietnamese who weren't there either. *grinnnn* John-boy wasn't in Vietnam long enough to learn that the majority of the people living along the Mekong are either Buddhist or Cao Dai, and neither of 'em celebrate Christmas. The only commonality "Kerry" shares with "credibility" are a couple of letters in the alphabet...
 
Thanks for tackling this subject, John. I'd been wondering what some of my more informed friends thought of it.
 
Murtha... *snort* He needs to turn in his club card, because he's lost his spine...
 
Murtha's tongue is in a wet place and is bound to slip occasionally...but I rather think this time he put his foot in his moutha. Now Bill, we all know Kerry is the recipient of 17 Purple Hearts, forty Legions of Merit and ten Congressional Medals of Honor. The records that he hasn't let the press look at say so. And of course, he was such a stellar performer he had to have an officer's board of review look at his performance before he was discharged...
 
I was listening to someone from NPR interview Murtha last night on my way home from work. She was dogged--at one point, when he said something about what the troops and the generals want, she asked him if they had actually told him that. He evaded it, she asked again, and he sputtered, then, unable to say "yes," said "well--isn't it OBVIOUS??" He was talking emotion, and not facts. No respect gained for him here.
 
Are we absolutely sure the troops didn't say that Kerry should leave Iraq?
 
Murtha. There's being a coward and then there's being a strategic imbecile(quit snorting Sanger, I can hear it all the way up here in Indiana). Like Duke Cunnigham this stance doesn't totally wreck the character of Murtha. When is the best time to end a war? When you've achieved a better peace than you had going in(if you will tolerate a butchering of Liddel Hart). Have we achieved that? No. Has Murtha learned that lesson after his call to abandon Somalia and the effects thereof? No. Creature of habitually bad decisions Murtha may be, but I find it hard, though not impossible, to call anyone who served in the Marines in Vietnam a spineless chicken. Malfing idiot? Sure. Coward? Need some convinving. Of course, welcomeness amoungst fellow Marines is up to the Marines.
 
John, you're thinking again. What did I tell you about that? Does anyone remember the photo of the Marines in the Denny's who were pressured into shaking hands with Kerry? What kind of soldiers are going to *voluntarily* talk to this schmuck? Yeah. I thought so.
 
Let's see, compare: 1. "decorated Vietnam veteran", retired O-5, Marine; vs 2. Bearded inhuman former wrestler, retired O-4, redleg. Bit of a toss-up: whose sample is truly better. Cheers.
 
Kerry's record is out there for all to see and Cass did an outstanding job of investigative reporting during Indecision '04. I call it that because of Kerry's flip-flops which are many. In that, he is a spineless coward. He did serve four months in a war zone. Beyond that, I am not going to comment. But we need to look at what was started here. I had mixed feelings about this war, from the beginning but supported it because I believed that more experienced people were in charge that would back the military and support their efforts. Honestly, now, did anyone hear anything by the MSM that was derogatory of Clinton's Kosovo war? Nope. When he left office, it was a mess for Bush to clean up, and that was five years after we were committed to action there. Things have gotten better because attitudes have changed. I attribute that to the fact that the Balkans are not smack dab in the ME. I hope that we can help them help themselves and stay the course, but when Bush leaves office in '08, it will be five years after the war started and who will see the distance then that Bush did for Clinton's effort? Just asking and if I am totally off the mark here, John will of course delete this because I am sounding sorta stupid...