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  <title>Comments for Little help...  and Grenade Pr0n!</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-12-07T13:57:48Z</published>
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    <title>Little help...  and Grenade Pr0n!</title>
    <summary>I&apos;ve been too serious of late, despite Bill&apos;s best efforts. Must be subliminally trying to ease the bruising my ego is taking at the Weblog Awards... Anybody know what grenade this is? It&apos;s been tentatively id&apos;d as a French Guidetti from WWI, but I don&apos;t agree. Unfortunately, I can&apos;t prove it isn&apos;t, either, really, based on the somewhat limited resources out there. Anybody know their obscure WWI grenades? Better than me? Who read this thing......</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I've been too serious of late, despite Bill's best efforts.  Must be subliminally trying to ease the bruising my ego is taking at the Weblog Awards...</p>

<p>Anybody know what grenade this is?</p>

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<p>It's been tentatively id'd as a French Guidetti from WWI, but I don't agree.  Unfortunately, I can't prove it isn't, either, really, based on the somewhat limited resources out there.  </p>

<p>Anybody know their obscure WWI grenades?  Better than me?  Who read this thing...</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4940-comment:36034</id>
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    <title>Comment from EODman on 2005-12-09</title>
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        I could probably tell you what it is, but my government computer won&apos;t open the picture.  Based on the written descriptions provided by the other contributors it sounds like a rifle grenade to me too, but that&apos;s as good as I can do given my LAN Nazi imposed blindness.
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    <published>2005-12-09T09:51:53Z</published>
    <updated>2005-12-09T09:51:53Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4940-comment:36010</id>
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    <title>Comment from NOTR on 2005-12-08</title>
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        <![CDATA[You can always buy the one on Ebay: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.ie/French-WW1-Guidetti-Grenade-RARE-Inert-NR_W0QQitemZ6586424905QQcategoryZ13974QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.ie/French-WW1-Guidetti-Grenade-RARE-Inert-NR_W0QQitemZ6586424905QQcategoryZ13974QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

Cost 10.5 Pounds
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    <published>2005-12-09T00:18:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-12-07</title>
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        A trip to the looney bin without better provenance than that!
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    <published>2005-12-07T18:43:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4940-comment:35928</id>
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    <title>Comment from jim b on 2005-12-07</title>
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        Yes I am glad you posted this particular grenade. There were actually 3 made.  It is of Austrian design.  The markings on it were cleaverly placed there to confuse CSI types.

What made this grenade special was that it contained no explosives at all. None.  It was not launched from a rifle or tube as the entire concept of this grenade was stealth.

The later two grenades were actually configured with silencers.

What did I win?
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    <published>2005-12-07T18:40:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-12-07</title>
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        No Harv, the Holy Handgrenade used the Fuze, Cross-shaped, Mark 4:12, and this clearly does not.

Bill - I&apos;m thinking along those lines, though the protruding vanes aren&apos;t a disqualifier - the german cup discharger of WWII used &apos;fitted&apos; rifled grenades, too.  The Austrians and Italians had to odd stuff, and the references are hard to come by... especially in English.
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    <published>2005-12-07T17:57:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2005-12-07</title>
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        The &quot;vanes&quot; protrude too far to have offered a decent seal for tube-launching and I think the shouldered area to the left of the brass collar probably helped retain the fuze cap. Some interesting barbs on the bell--an attaching point for a rifle-barrel launching rod, maybe?

Hmmmm. The Austro-Hungarians had some interesting limited-production ordnance early in the war...
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    <published>2005-12-07T16:47:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Harvey on 2005-12-07</title>
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        Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch? :-)
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    <published>2005-12-07T16:43:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-12-07</title>
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        I&apos;m leaning more towards a cup-launched rifle grenade, though a trench mortar is possible. I know it isn&apos;t German unless this is a new, unknown version of those.
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    <published>2005-12-07T14:20:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Hans Mahler on 2005-12-07</title>
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        It looks to me like one of the early german Rifle-grenades, but I&apos;m not an expert(ask me about naval warfare), so Don&apos;t take my word for it.
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    <published>2005-12-07T14:12:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rey on 2005-12-07</title>
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        Looks more like a mortar round. See the vanes for &quot;rifling&quot; in a smooth barrel and the fuse head with a safety band collar? probably around 60mm, cant tell the scale in the pic.
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    <published>2005-12-07T14:04:01Z</published>
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