We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:50:56 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification Hmmmm. Al-Reuters, 21 Dec 05 On December 21, 2005, Al-Qaeda fighters, Ba-athist militiamen, and Sunni Insurgents staged an ambush some three miles from FOB Kearny, in the Sunni Triangle. Ordered to rescue a besieged logistics convoy, Captain William J. Fetterman and 80 soldiers were decoyed over MSR Cheyenne by a small number of Insurgents led by the young jihadi warrior, Abd al-Aziz, into a trap where over 1000 insurgents waited in hiding. Fetterman's pursuit over the MSR, in violation of the ROE, led to the death of his entire command. The shooting started about noon, and was over by 12:30.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:41:02 -0600 Just what I told that zoomie. I forgot he don't care he isn't ont he ground. He's back in the gunfighter's club suckin down drinks so he can sober up on oxygen in the morning. BTW just came back from the pawn shop. They still have that Webley MK IV in the showcase for $249.00. Too bad I don't want it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36851 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36851 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:04:24 -0600 Those Zoomies are in danger of falling into the trap of "All the wars we'll ever fight will be like the one's we're fighting now." We tried just that - mortars and air only - in Afghanistan. The Zoomies weren't always on-station. And they weren't all weather. And their smallest ordnance was a bit big for danger close. And sometimes the mortars couldn't reach everything. The artillery *is* a seriously diminished branch already. We've eliminated/eliminating the Corps Artillery cannon units - their place is being taken by the Air Force. All we're keeping for long range shooters are the rocket units (which the Air Force *likes* for Air Defense suppression...) But, if we *ever* have to fight in the Korean peninsula, or against someone on the line of Iran, India, Russia, or China - someone with an Air Force and a credible Air Defense system - then there won't be all those planes around, and a few battalion volleys of 155mm will be *very* useful. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36845 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36845 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:40:04 -0600 Thanks for the reminder about Artillery Journal on line. Am currently in a discussion with some zoomies as to why mortars and bombers are not a replacement for field artie. BTW on the Artillery Journal thingie, there is a magazine reference for treadheads magazine, I clicked it but it is busted. You just can never find a tank when you want one. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36841 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36841 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:30:14 -0600 MCart - Yeah, kind of along the lines of, "Sir, we're surrounded!" "Perfect. They won't get away *this* time..." http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36813 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36813 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:00:21 -0600 Misspelled 'Insurgents' in your 'news' clip. :) Soon as I hit that I became highly suspicious. Nice lead-in though. I was starting to think 'A THOUSAND, in ONE PLACE? WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY!!!" http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36809 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36809 Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:08:42 -0600 Responding to your question at Bloggin' Outloud: Only 2. (and yep, blogger html tags are limited :-) no smileys either! But I'll keep plugging away at "KS news in the national spotlight" and someday will attract more. lol But now that I know you're from Leavenworth, I'll post an entry from Argghhh! next Monday! No one escapes my all seeing blog. :wink: Congrats on your top Mil Blog win, btw. (That's why I felt okay about the TB, I do mention you in the post! :-) Have a great Christmas. lgp http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36803 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36803 Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:36:17 -0600 Not on my subscription list... but mebbe they're online (tappity-tappity). Heh. Nope. Feh. Field Artillery Journal has everything online. What's up with the Treadheads? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36797 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36797 Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:40:07 -0600 There was an excellent article on this battle in the last issue if Armor Magazine. It's well worth the read, if you can lay your hands on it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36796 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/12/fighting_insurgents.html#comment-36796 Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:31:14 -0600