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  <title>Comments for Preview of coming attractions...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-10-26T14:37:28Z</published>
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    <title>Preview of coming attractions...</title>
    <summary> Update: Since the Gurlz of Argghhh! (heh, a calendar, perhaps?) seem to be a little confused, the following information is provided to help the Ya-Ya Blog Sisterhood (YYBS) better comprehend what is in the photo above (because if you read the comments, the YYBS&apos; are having some difficulty)... Top, from left to right. British No23 Mk1, bottom of Austrian Lakos, top of Austrian Kugelhandgranate (both from last week), German Diskushandgranate M1915, British No 5 Mk 1. Next under is an Austrian Universal grenade in rod configuration. Next under is a long-hafted brass-bodied grenade that while it does have a...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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Update:  Since the Gurlz of Argghhh! (heh, a calendar, perhaps?) seem to be a little confused, the following information is provided to help the Ya-Ya Blog Sisterhood (YYBS) better comprehend what is in the photo above (because if you read the comments, the YYBS' are having some difficulty)...</p>

<p>Top, from left to right.</p>

<p>British No23 Mk1, bottom of Austrian Lakos, top of Austrian Kugelhandgranate (<b><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/004729.html">both from last week</a></b>), German Diskushandgranate M1915, British No 5 Mk 1.</p>

<p>Next under is an Austrian Universal grenade in rod configuration.<br />
Next under is a long-hafted brass-bodied grenade that while it does have a proper British No19 grenade fuze on it is probably not an official grenade at all but someones attempt at a repro.</p>

<p>Bottom, L to R:  German Ubungs, or training grenade that substituted for the M1916 and M1917 stick grenades in Stormtrooper training exercises.  Russian Lantern grenade, British No19, with streamers (which are prolly replacements), British No1Mk2 (short handled, missing the streamers), German Kugelhandgranate M1915, and lastly, a German M1917 stick grenade.</p>

<p>One of these grenades (unrelated to repro parts) has something wrong with it.  Let's see if there's a grognard out there who can figure it out.  Hint - *I* wasn't paying attention at some point - a factoid which will only assist a *real* grognard or dogged pursuer of the question.  Oh, and if you think I've mis-identified a grenade, that's possible, but would only count as extra credit...</p>

<p>Oh, and yes, dear - I've taken all the toys and put them back in the case, rather than leave them strewn on your antique butcher block table... really!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Harvey on 2005-10-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Harvey</name>
        <uri>http://www.badexample.mu.nu/</uri>
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        Wait... you mean these AREN&apos;T primitive Neanderthal corn-dogs found at an archeological dig in Ethiopia? :-)
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    <published>2005-10-28T00:37:04Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-28T00:37:04Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4756-comment:33816</id>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        The red band means the grenade is filled (i.e., doesn&apos;t have to be filled by the ultimate user or some lower-level ordnance operation.

The green band means the grenade is filled with Baratol, TNT, Trotyl, or Amatol.

The Mills also has the Red Xs, which means the grenade is filled and sealed for use in tropical (moist) climates.

The bronze painted body of the Mills also indicates it&apos;s a drill grenade.  I&apos;m not sure if drill grenades got filler markings, etc, for training purposes, or if the collectors took drill grenades and added the markings, keeping the bronze color so as not to cause hissyfits among EOD personnel.


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    <published>2005-10-27T12:03:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J.M. Heinrichs on 2005-10-27</title>
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        Four of your Brit toys have red/green markings, save the No19. Was that the 1WW mark for inert or practice toys?

Cheers
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    <published>2005-10-27T11:56:43Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-27T11:56:43Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2005-10-26</title>
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        We&apos;re not confused, John.  We&apos;re just creative and resourceful with common battlefield objects.  You should see what we can do with modern weapons.  *grin*
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    <published>2005-10-27T01:52:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-10-26</title>
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        ...love it. Bring it on...!
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    <published>2005-10-27T01:45:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        That would why it was termed... &quot;Preview of Coming Attractions...&quot;
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    <published>2005-10-27T00:55:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4756-comment:33799</id>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-10-26</title>
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        ps- re the streamers on the impact-fuzed Brit jobbies... you should prolly elucidate, since this is an educational post. Dinna forget that most of us are iggerant...
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    <published>2005-10-27T00:11:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-10-26</title>
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        ...no penalty... PHEWWW... [wipes sweaty brow]
Thanks fer the break, John.
heh
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    <published>2005-10-27T00:02:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Nope.  Wouldn&apos;t expect to find that on a battlefield pick-up, either... but since I didn&apos;t make that clear, no penalty.

But you *are* close, in a cosmic way.
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    <published>2005-10-26T22:47:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-10-26</title>
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        The M1917 spud-masher is missing the bakelite cap that originally covered the friction fuze pull-string... but I bet that&apos;s not what yer looking for, eh?
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    <published>2005-10-26T22:33:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        <![CDATA[Well, they haven't.  <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/46D828559B56088/standard.jpg" rel="nofollow">Not really</a></b>.

This is a <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/1174C1DFD47B358/standard.jpg" rel="nofollow">WWI trench mace </a></b>of the Royal Inniskillings...]]>
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    <published>2005-10-26T22:08:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from kat-missouri on 2005-10-26</title>
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        <name>kat-missouri</name>
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        When I first flipped to the page, i thought that John was going my way and showing us some maces.  LOL  Then I realized those were really grenades and I came to the conclusion that the shape of percussion weapons really hadn&apos;t changed much in 800 years. ;)


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    <published>2005-10-26T21:52:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from CDR Salamander on 2005-10-26</title>
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        Potato smashers.  YIPEEE!!
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    <published>2005-10-26T19:51:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2005-10-26</title>
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        *sneaks behind john... uncrosses his fingers*

riiiiiiight
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    <published>2005-10-26T19:47:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        No, of course not.  I don&apos;t own any explosive ordnance capable of exploding!

I am a good boy, I am.

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    <published>2005-10-26T19:30:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fuzzybear Lioness on 2005-10-26</title>
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        <name>Fuzzybear Lioness</name>
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        <![CDATA[Hmmm... Wouldn't happen to be <i>your</i> house, would it, John?  ;)]]>
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    <published>2005-10-26T19:21:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        UM- if your use of explosives is leaving craters where you don&apos;t wish them... then you aren&apos;t using your explosives correctly.

I&apos;ve seen a 155mm HE round safely disposed of while on the porch of a house... with almost no damage to the house except some scorch marks on the concrete of the porch.
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    <published>2005-10-26T19:16:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2005-10-26</title>
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        #82,
Not everyone is as lucky as SWWBO.
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    <published>2005-10-26T18:49:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from UtahMan on 2005-10-26</title>
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        <name>UtahMan</name>
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        Not going near the &quot;hand tools&quot; remarks. A guy could hurt himself.

Although those could simplify the tool box. After all, a proper amount of explosives can solve *any* problem...

...except how to fill in the resultant crater.
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    <published>2005-10-26T18:40:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
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        Ladies - the men in your lives inadequate or something?

Geez.
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    <published>2005-10-26T18:26:42Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T18:26:42Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
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        &quot;For a Good Time, call John&quot;
*snerk*
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    <published>2005-10-26T16:25:47Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T16:25:47Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Were-Kitten</name>
        
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        MM-
Hand tools:  GOOD
Sharp edges:  BAD.  VERY bad.
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    <published>2005-10-26T16:20:40Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T16:20:40Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Fuzzybear Lioness on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Fuzzybear Lioness</name>
        <uri>http://fuzzilicious.blogspot.com</uri>
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        You tease, John!  :)
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    <published>2005-10-26T15:48:05Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T15:48:05Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Masked Menace© on 2005-10-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Masked Menace©</name>
        
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        Hmmm, &quot;hand tools&quot; huh?

At least there aren&apos;t any sharp edges. :-)
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    <published>2005-10-26T15:38:01Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T15:38:01Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Were-Kitten on 2005-10-26</title>
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        mmmmmm.... looks like fun, John!

purrrrr
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    <published>2005-10-26T14:41:50Z</published>
    <updated>2005-10-26T14:41:50Z</updated>
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