We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2007 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:17:38 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2008 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification In John's gleanings below, the captioneer calls the UH-60 a Blackhawk. In my comment, I refer to the critter as a Black Hawk. *snicker* Who's correct and--specifically--why? Brag rights to the first one of you to get it right without just making a SWAG. Okay, Barb, the meaning of the acronym is in Flash Traffic. You didn't think I'd just leave it lying around out here, did you? *Update* The Scruples sent along a pic of Bill's Den. **Update to the Update** Why John doesn't worry about his Jerry Pournelle collection disappearing from the Library...... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:28:18 -0600 Give me the raspberry, will you? Just be glad I don't know the Schwartz, have a funky ring, and drink coffee while I watch Mr. Radar. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33631 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33631 Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:21:25 -0600 SCOOOOOORE!!! WK - You mean, of course, née-née-née-née-née-née-ner...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33559 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33559 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:40:35 -0600 *grump* nee-nee-nee-nee-nee-nee-ner http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33556 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33556 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:34:54 -0600 REAL reason is because the name "blackhawk" was already taken: http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/s67001.jpg the Sikorsky (S-67) blackhawk was a sweeeet aircraft, in terms of form and function. more detail here: http://tri.army.mil/LC/CS/csa/aahist3.htm#S67 ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33546 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33546 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:23:17 -0600 Heh. SWWBO just got home from a weeks travel... *I'm* not the one who was doing any sword-handling last night, Ry. Plllpppppt! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33543 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33543 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:56:52 -0600 Well, at least you didn't stab yourself John.(cowers in fear). http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33542 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33542 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:45:07 -0600 Fark. That's just 11PM 3-'ritas'-to-the-wind small font on a laptop on my lap there. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33539 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33539 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:34:07 -0600 didn't say it, but he would have if they'd used more tarragon in the Rail-Splitter Café... Ooooooh! Speaking of accentuation: "It's also spelled, nêe..." Heh. All that work with the asterisks and italicized bolding stuff made you overconfident, John. It's "née"... Yeah, yeah, I know--"Bill? Shut Up!" ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33538 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33538 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:45:27 -0600 If yer askin' the question you probably already know the answer. Comfort yourself with the thought that you can thump around really loud early in the morning. Getting ready for the day doncha know... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33533 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33533 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:41:58 -0600 Sybil, as in the mythological entity? Or, Sybil, as in Sally Field, the Flying Nun, Gidgit, and multiple personality disorder movie-lady? Sorry, suffering from Idjit Undergrad Partiers Who Live Below Me Induced Insomnia. Would it be a crime if I.......... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33532 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33532 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:37:57 -0600 But then with the echo chamber I do seem to spend a lot of time repeating myself. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33530 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33530 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:17:46 -0600 Just what I was thinkin; John. Geez, I only have one player in this game. Guess it's time to Sybilize. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33529 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33529 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:16:31 -0600 Heh. It's also spelled, nêe, though nee is an acceptable spelling. It means, variously, "born as" and "formerly known as". Nie, as we all know, is Knightly Speech, and you don't want to make them say "Nie!" at you! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33528 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33528 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:49:59 -0600 Heh. Learn a gramatical rule at the Castle. Who'd a thunk it? Didn't know there was a convention about nie. I was going to use 'cum', but I worried about being tasered by PG-17, since it's got the knew thesaurus and dictionary programming and, well, some o' y'all got your mind in the gutter. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33527 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33527 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:44:33 -0600 forget a playbook- somebody needs to get her an eraser.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33526 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33526 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:30:35 -0600 It's Were-Kitten, nie AFSister, Ry. Sis came first... then the Kitten. Then Mawk. Then, heck, I don't know- someone else. Somebody needs to get me a playbook for my own players! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33524 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33524 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:28:08 -0600 It's Were-Kitten, nie AFSister, Ry. Sis came first... then the Kitten. Then Mawk. Then, heck, I don't know- someone else. Somebody needs to get me a playbook for my own players! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33523 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33523 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:28:03 -0600 Punctilious briefed on October 20, 2005 04:57 PM Huh? Punc, Cheif(ret) wanted to see how long it took me to jump on a quasi-musical reference. He dropped Twisted Sister on AfSib (ne Were-Kitten, I don't know how many facets that woman has.). Being the gangrel creature around here I don't get many things left out for me to pounce on. We takes what we gets, yes, my precious, we does. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33519 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33519 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:50:31 -0600 heh- a bassid I be... [wanders off, whistling 'Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport'] http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33513 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33513 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:05:03 -0600 Damn, denied me the snark, Neffi. You bassid! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33511 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33511 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:54:11 -0600 The 'correct' name for the UH-60 is whatever the DOD sez it is- irregardless* of what anyone else calls it. Jeez, Chief- give us a tuff one next time. *for you, Boq laddie! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33510 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33510 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:53:01 -0600 Huh? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33497 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33497 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:57:19 -0600 Are we gonna take this anymore? No! We aren't gonna take it. We ain't gonna take this anymore! I don't know which is scarier? Dee Snider in make up or Dee Snider out of makeup. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33496 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33496 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:45:45 -0600 Liked that, didja? And sure, I'll tell you the real story. Eventually. Still waiting on a couple of the grognards to show, and I wouldn't want them to spend the next week whining, "I knew that--you just gave in to Punc's feminine wiles, didn'tcha? I'm tellin' Rammer!" Gee--sure hope I don't get hit by a tandem semi on the drive home. It's such a *simple* answer, too... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33493 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33493 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:38:54 -0600 Giggle. Figures you'd find a way to bring that whole zipper thing into it. And just when I was about to try and un-hijack the thread and ask you if you are ever gonna tell us the real story. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33488 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33488 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:05:15 -0600 left wing. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33487 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33487 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:02:26 -0600 SangerM 1. I know. But it still doesn't work in Firefox (or on a Mac for that matter) 2. You must have attended some of the same conferences for teachers doing research on teaching a certain subject that I went to for awhile. Kept publishing in their sandbox --sorta, but stopped going to their meetings. The 'bright' folks there looked at your nametag and institution to decide if you were worthy of acknowledgment or response. I could just imagine them in their classrooms. 3. Too many educators think that giving a child a one inch line to fill in the proper one inch answer is all it takes to demonstrate their (the teacher's) ability to teach. OOOPS. /rant. This could go on for awhile and I don't have enough cider at the moment. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33486 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33486 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:57:13 -0600 Shutting Up, Sir! hahahahahahahahahah ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33485 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33485 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:54:24 -0600 Punc. 1) The bolding comment was for Castle Master and his growing warning statement, above... 2) Teachers. I were one, sort-of, so sometimes that's self loathing, but I worked with teachers for a long time. I appreciate the difficulties, but more than a few of them like to talk down to parents and laymen, and still do that to me. Right up until I explain that I probably have more Ed-related education and experience than they do, with credentials to prove it, and then--and only then--do I suddenly have a clue, even though I've said nothing different. But even more than that, I really dislike people (and teachers especially) who refuse to consider that a child might have a valid viewpoint, or might be right. I know how this guy arrived at the wrong conclusion, but this is supposed to be an advanced English class. Seems to me precision and accuracy are hallmarks of a professional writer or speaker. You know, never use utilize for use, or irregardless, or it's for its, or Ozone Layer to mean Ozone, or throttle grip for pinger (or whatever). You know what I mean... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33484 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33484 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:50:05 -0600 But they don't show up in Firefox. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33483 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33483 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:48:56 -0600 Shut Up. 8^p]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33481 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33481 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:40:06 -0600 Finally got all that bolding and asterisk stuff worked didja? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33480 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33480 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:36:57 -0600 Ozone (a gas found in the stratosphere, a layer around the Earth) is a particularly difficult concept to teach because of all the wrong information that has been poured into the minds of students and teachers and the general population. I think I've got a couple posts on greenhouse gasses and hole in the ozone but I feel another one is due. BTW... Not all teachers. I just relearned a concept in biology by checking up on what one of the spuds was learning. Turns out the teacher knew more than the perfesser. Fortunately for me I did my research before I opened my mouth. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33479 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33479 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:35:49 -0600 One of my daughter's over-intelligent English Teachers had a bit of a problem with the state of matter last week. On a vocab list, he defined Ozone as a gas layer around the Earth. My daughter told him ozone is a gas, not a layer in space. He said he wanted a "more complete answer." Fortunately, she restrained herself from telling him "It's a gas, stupid." Of course, while I approve of her answering with what he wanted her to write on the test ["It didn't matter, Dad, he wouldn't listen anyway."], if she had answered the other way, any punishment would have included ice cream, extra allowance, and a trip to six flags. I'm not a fan of most teachers. And I's got a advnaced degreee in ejukation. . . http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33478 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33478 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:29:16 -0600 I mean breathe. guess there's a little more biiiite to my cider than I thought. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33475 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33475 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:14:40 -0600 SangerM as one of my students once explained it there are four states of matter, solid, liquid and gas, the kind you put in your car and the stuff you breath. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33474 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33474 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:12:30 -0600 GACK No wonder it is wimpering over there in the corner. Hardly a word is spoken with out euphemisms and double whatchamacallits on some threads around here. Anyone else want a hot spiced cider with a little biiiite to it? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33473 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33473 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:10:19 -0600 Software, wetware, hardware... Just different states of matter, eh? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33472 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33472 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:09:51 -0600 Hee! Punc, someone unknown uploaded a euphemism dictionary to the PG-17 and we haven't been able to unload it... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33471 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33471 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:08:15 -0600 Now Bill. I don't know what you are thinking but I was referring to the mt ping function. I can't imagine how a discussion of software could possibly interest the PG-17. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33470 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33470 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:05:48 -0600 It is gonna be really bad if the echo chamber stays permanently lodged in my pinger! So, Punc, what part of "keep it PG-17 decent" did you miss?]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33469 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33469 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:01:26 -0600 Nice recovery kemosabe.... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33468 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33468 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:00:28 -0600 It is gonna be really bad if the echo chamber stays permanently lodged in my pinger! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33467 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33467 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:57:56 -0600 echoing trackbacks, she's been testing her code, too...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33463 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33463 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:51:40 -0600 Just Testing... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33456 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33456 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:19:01 -0600 So, Punc, what part of "Don't Bother" did you miss...? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33455 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33455 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:17:45 -0600 Jungle room? Has anyone watered the plants in there lately? Hawks are to be found in the crenelations. No need to water the plants up there. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33453 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33453 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:14:11 -0600 I don't like what you said, so therefore I will mock you mercilessly. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33452 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33452 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:09:06 -0600 *dang it* USMC USMC USMC USMC gee... I hope Sgt. B doesn't punish me too harshly. *cries out* "Oh PLEEZ, Saw-junt Bee, PLEEZ don' throw me in tha Jungle Room! PLEEZ!" http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33451 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33451 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:05:27 -0600 Sikorsky actually did name the prototype "Blackhawk"--then changed it to the present spelling for the UTTAS fly-off competition. Clear as mud yet? ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33450 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33450 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:04:52 -0600 ...Presidential Hawk (UMSC VIP's)..." That grinding noise you hear is Sarge B gritting his teeth... ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33448 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33448 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:57:55 -0600 "SnagerM" Sorry. Didn't mean to make you forget how to spell your name or nuthin'... *giggle* http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33447 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33447 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:48:23 -0600 1. What*ever* are you talking about? 2. At least I now know that *someone* actually reads that text! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33445 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33445 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:32:48 -0600 BTW, John, In your comment admoniton, you ask the visitor to "attach the message, not the messenger." Say again? ;-) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33444 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33444 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:29:34 -0600 TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! TMI! **runs off to room to check grip** http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33442 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33442 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:23:13 -0600 Depends on your grip, Chief. Trust me..... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33441 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33441 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:16:15 -0600 WK - In my world-reference, throttle is applied with a twisting motion. I just ain't *that* twisted, sister... *checking watch to see how long it takes ry to jump on that one* http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33437 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33437 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:08:07 -0600 But properly applied, throttle does bring out the joy stick... at least, that's been my experience. *wink* *kicks PG-17C back under the bed* http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33431 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33431 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:50:06 -0600 WK - Sorry, but there's nary a throttle in sight. That control thingy you're referring to is called a cyclic when it's in a helicopter--in this application, however, it's more properly termed a *hastily placing kevlar blankets around the thread* "joy stick"... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33428 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33428 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:38:15 -0600 OK.... I google'd Black Hawk, and found LOTS of "Hawk" variations, including Pot Hawk (drug recon), Credible Hawk (search & rescue), Velcro Hawk (special forces), Night Hawk (search * rescue), and Pave Hawk (combat SAR/spec ops), Presidential Hawk (UMSC VIP's), Dustoff Hawk (med evac) and Desert Hawk (for Saudi Arabia). Must have something to do with "Hawk", but darn if I know what. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33425 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33425 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:29:28 -0600 Oh yeah, Bill... nice den! Great view, and throttle in just the right spot. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33423 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33423 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:23:50 -0600 SWAG.... Sealed With A Grin? I like that better than Scientific Wild Ass Guess. Much more fun. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33422 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33422 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:21:32 -0600 Yep, Bill - lotsa spikes in the bottom of that pit... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33419 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33419 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:09:57 -0600 are named after Indian tribes, but there have been exceptions--the L-19 Bird Dog, the OH-23 Raven (aka "Hiller the Killer") and the *ahem* AH-1 Cobra. And of course, nobody ever calls a UH-1 an Iroquois or a CH-54 a Tarhe. No, Barb, military IT types can't form complete sentences. They can barely form coherent thoughts...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33396 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33396 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:28:09 -0600 *snort* As if I didn't know what SWAG stood for. Give me a leetle more credit than that, wouldja? As an aside, between mil terminology and geek terminology, do the military IT people actually know how to form complete sentences?]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33394 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33394 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:58:41 -0600 The Army traditionally names helicopters in honor of a Native American tribe. In this case, I don't know if they picked the name, then realized it wasn't a tribe, or if they knew what they were doing and didn't care. The fact, as far as I can tell, is that there is no "Blackhawk" Tribe. Black Hawk was an indian leader of the Sauk Tribe, and the Indians who followed him in the "Black Hawk War" were called the Black Hawk Tribe after him. The 1/1 Cav was the 1st Regiment of Dragoons, better known as the "BLACKHAWK" for its frontier work. In the History of the unit, they list Black Hawk tas one of the tribes the unit fought, but it is not clear if the writer understood Black Hawk was the leader. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33393 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33393 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:54:29 -0600 Black Hawk, after the Indian tribe (as well as one Indian Chief) of that name. In fact, aren't all Army Helo's named after Indian tribes? On the other hand, Blackhawk (one word) was a comic strip. FYI : Didn't 'Google' it, although it did take research ... *grin* ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33392 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33392 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:51:31 -0600 And the reason Sikorsky calls it Black Hawk is...what? C'mon, ry--that ain't even a Muffy-level Google! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33390 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33390 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:37:01 -0600 http://www.sikorsky.com/details/1,,CLI1_DIV69_ETI773,00.html]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33389 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/10/a_contest_sorta.html#comment-33389 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:32:23 -0600