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  <title>Comments for Ahhh...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2007</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-09-21T02:54:28Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:14Z</updated>
    <title>Ahhh...</title>
    <summary>&quot;Don&apos;t get stuck on stupid, reporters.&quot; *grin* PAO Flack: &quot;What the General meant to say was...&quot; &quot;You are stuck on stupid.&quot; Get some, Russ. Hoo-ah!?! Update. Snerk. Oliver Willis spanks the Vokdapundit and Instapundit as clueless neanderthal rethuglican crackers (admittedly my words, not his) who&apos;ve obviously never spoken to a person of color (more specifically, a person of notably dark hue) or, apparently read the Linux boards or used Google to search for everyday city argot. Why? Because they hail LTG Honore&apos;s &quot;Stuck on Stupid&quot; line as a &quot;new catchphrase&quot; which apparently annoys Oliver, because, well, because it&apos;s a &apos;black...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>"<b><a href="http://www.radioblogger.com/#00100"target=_blank>Don't get stuck on stupid, reporters."</a></b></p>

<p>*grin*</p>

<p>PAO Flack: "What the General meant to say was..."</p>

<p>"<b><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/historystuff/09-20honore.mp3 "target=_blank>You are stuck on stupid</a></b>."</p>

<p>Get some, Russ.</p>

<p>Hoo-ah!?!</p>

<p>Update.  Snerk.</p>

<p>Oliver Willis spanks the <b><a href="http://vodkapundit.com/archives/008116.php"target=_blank>Vokdapundit</a></b> and <b><a href="http://instapundit.com/archives/025670.php"target=_blank>Instapundit</a></b> as clueless neanderthal rethuglican crackers (admittedly my words, not his) who've obviously never spoken to a person of color (more specifically, a person of notably dark hue) or, apparently read the Linux boards or <b><a href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=%22stuck%20on%20stupid%22"target=_blank>used Google</a></b> to search for everyday city argot.</p>

<p>Why?  Because they hail LTG Honore's "Stuck on Stupid" line as a "new catchphrase" which apparently annoys <b><a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2005/09/21/have-right-wing-bloggers-ever-met-any-black-people/"target=_blank>Oliver,</a></b> because, well, because it's a 'black thang' and we persons of paleness apparently are not allowed to use it without permission, or at least disclaimers of it's ethnic origins.  Possibly, Oliver has some subsumed issues with too-cute uses of the word 'stupid', given his blog's tagline.</p>

<p>I think it's more sour grapes, and perhaps because it's not quite Oliver's favorite kind of black person who provided the magic moment (though, to be truthful, I have no idea what LTG Honore's politics are) that caused the phrase to escape Oliver's demesne.  That and because it ain't gonna get used by his side of the political fence, but rather, against it.  Therefore, this must be pooh-poohed early and often!</p>

<p>Note to Oliver:  Martin Luther King, Jr., was *not* the first person to utter the words "I have a dream" in a public venue.  If "the internets" had existed then, I suspect one could have Googled the phrase and come up with a few hits, too.</p>

<p>Perhaps an even more relevant example would be "Ich bin ein Berliner."  President Kennedy wasn't the first to say that - but he was the first American president to say it in the context of a beleagured post-war west Berlin.</p>

<p>Then there's Todd Beamer's "Let's Roll."  Mr. Beamer was certainly not the first to say that, either.  </p>

<p>No, to become a catchphrase with a cachet outside of normal conversation, it has to be tied to a notable person saying it at a notable moment.</p>

<p>That's all.</p>

<p>It's not racist, or even clueless, Oliver.  Really.  </p>

<p>I think you're just jealous.</p>

<p>Oh, and Oliver - yes, as someone who has been associated with the Army from birth, this right-wing blogger has met black people.  Many, many, many fine ones.  Just for the record.  Shhhh!  I've even met gay persons.  Wearing uniforms, too!  And women!  I know, that will come as a shock.</p>

<p>Heh.  Typical blogger - I managed to make this all about me!</p>

<p>Update: I promise, in order to not step on <b><a href="http://sortapundit.typepad.com/sortapundit/2005/09/youre_stuck_on_.html#comment-9646032"target=_blank>Sortapundit's last nerve</a></b>, Castle Argghhh! will not get <s>Stuck on Stupid</s>.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2005-09-22</title>
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        I plead institutional ignorance.  Here in civie world maintenance engineer is a big title for janitor.  
(not to self, when attempting to channel military personages attempt to use the proper lingo.)
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    <published>2005-09-22T17:47:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Naw, Ry - I wouldn&apos;t make my mechanics do that - it would be the extra-duty/training cohort, under the supervision of their platoon sergeants.
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    <published>2005-09-22T04:06:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Dusty&apos;s wishin&apos; for a Patton temper tantrum.  Would be fun to watch.  
&apos;It&apos;s Ivory you no neck geek!  Only a New Orleans pimp would carry pearl handled revolvers!&apos;  (Blam. Blam. Blam.)  &apos;Damn reporters, no sense of humor and no spine either.  Sgt!, get maintenance to clean up the mess.&apos;
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    <published>2005-09-22T04:00:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from msg keith on 2005-09-21</title>
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        LT. Gen. Honore&apos; is the 1st Army CG. At the Boy Scout Jamboree, Maj. Gen. Yingling was the task force commander and Honore&apos; was his boss. Honore&apos; is the type that if you&apos;re doing good, he tells you you&apos;re doing good, and if you&apos;re f*cked up, he will tell you you&apos;re f*cked up. And it didn&apos;t matter if you were military, civilian or boy scout. A PAO&apos;s worst nightmare, and the kind of leader you would follow anywhere. A leader that you don&apos;t have to worry about him feeding the troops a line of crap. We need a few more of those...
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    <published>2005-09-21T21:59:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Hokay.  Read the transcript and howled with laughter and rubbed my little legs together (I am a Cricket) for the General&apos;s timely remarks and not letting the media control the conference.  He did the mayor Nobrain of NO a favor and if the mayor had the gall to back a Rethug over Kathleen Blank-o, he will be up to speed and thankful for the timely intervention, the focus of speedy eveacuation in light of the current threat and RUN WITH IT and not make it an issue.  And if Oliver Willis has half the brain cells he thinks he has,
he will be honest enough to admit that the General was savvy, to the point and get on with the current crisis, not the one that happened three weeks ago.
Life goes on people.


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    <published>2005-09-21T18:30:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2005-09-21</title>
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        People tried telling Oliver that his whole blog..well never mind.  I dislike his blog because of the politics and the general whining tone of it.  I have been to lefty blogs, and so help me, have waded through chomsky-inspired drivel.  I just avoid his for aforementioned reasons.
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    <published>2005-09-21T18:21:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-09-21</title>
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        &quot;Stuck on stupid...&quot;

The Grunt sits back in the corner, laughing hysterically...

Gawd, I LOVE it!

Semper Fi, General...
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Excellent set of posts!  I love it. Both the General&apos;s comments and yours re: Oliver&apos;s nonsensical comments.

What I really liked most is what I consider a hallmark of the U.S. Army--a cherished tradition, if you will.  Folks just pretty much calling it like they see it when there&apos;s no time to waste on social grease.  You know, the conversations that start with something like &quot;First of all, I&apos;m the one talking, so just put yourself in receive mode, ok...

Good for the General.  Go Army!

And that said, I assure you I will find a way to use DGSOS sometime today.  Even if I have to foment a moment... 

SangerM
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    <title>Comment from AFSister on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Maybe someone should tell Oliver not to get stuck on stupid.


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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Heh.  You got time to snark, but not time to post, eh, slacker?
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    <published>2005-09-21T13:54:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2005-09-21</title>
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        <![CDATA[Actually, JFK probably <i>was</i> the first person to say, "Ich bin eine Berliner." Everybody else says, "Ich bin Berliner."

"Ich bin Berliner" = "I am a Berliner."

"<a href="http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/jfkberl.htm" rel="nofollow"><b>Ich bin eine Berliner</b></a>" = "I am a puff pastry."

So the urban legend goes, anyway. But the Berliners understood that he used "eine" for emphasis, and appreciated it. O' course, JFK might've known the colloquialism and figgered it was a perlite way of telling the Sovs, "Bite me."]]>
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    <published>2005-09-21T13:42:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-09-21</title>
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        Well, for Oliver, it&apos;s culturo-racial.
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    <published>2005-09-21T13:36:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fuzzybear Lioness on 2005-09-21</title>
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        As far as any racial group having a patent on &quot;Stuck on stupid,&quot; it&apos;s interesting to read the comments at Vodka pundit.  The commenters report encountering it in conjunction with the Marine Corps, a famous ad slogan, and the South in general.  It seems to be a rather old catch-phrase.  Nobody mentions hearing it in a particular racial context.
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    <published>2005-09-21T12:54:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from mudpuppy1975 on 2005-09-21</title>
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        sounded like the General was tearing into a young staff Major or lite Col.
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    <title>Comment from Instapilot on 2005-09-20</title>
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        The sidearm was deleted the standard Army officer&apos;s uniform around 1914.

Shame.

Heh.
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