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  <title>Comments for Paper targets fear them...</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-08-03T18:45:54Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:08Z</updated>
    <title>Paper targets fear them...</title>
    <summary>...and I have no doubt live ones would, too. Castle Adjutant Barb and the Snarkatron Bad Cat Robot, Denizennes both, did a little shooting yesterday. BCR has her target posted. We are, *ahem* waiting on the Adjutant&apos;s target pics... BCR needs to pull back the trigger finger a bit, and not pull so hard - an easy touch will do, and drag that center of mass right where it oughta be. Not that where it *is* isn&apos;t going to be hard on a live target. Lest anyone snark, the Armorer has posted his sadly deteriorating skillz before, too. Here are...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>...and I have no doubt live ones would, too.</p>

<p><b><a href="http://barbette.blogspot.com/2005/08/denizennes-in-action-updated.html">Castle Adjutant Barb</a></b> and the Snarkatron Bad Cat Robot, Denizennes both, did a little shooting yesterday.</p>

<p><b><a href="http://snarkpatrol.blogspot.com/2005/08/paper-targets-fear-me.html"target=_blank>BCR has her target posted</a></b>.</p>

<p>We are, *ahem* waiting on the Adjutant's target pics...</p>

<p>BCR needs to pull back the trigger finger a bit, and not pull so hard - an easy touch will do, and drag that center of mass right where it oughta be.</p>

<p>Not that where it *is* isn't going to be hard on a live target.</p>

<p>Lest anyone snark, the Armorer has posted his sadly deteriorating skillz before, too.</p>

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<p><b><a href="http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/002430.html"target=_blank>Here are some more Armorer targets</a></b>.</p>

<p>Update: Okay, so <b><a href="http://www.fototime.com/BA8BE3453647C1A/standard.jpg">Barb did post one some time in the past</a></b>... Last night!  Last Night!  Last Night!  The Peasants with Pitchforks are roaring!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Masked Menace© on 2005-08-04</title>
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        <name>Masked Menace©</name>
        
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        Thanks for the recommendation Sgt.,

For home defense, it would definitely be a shotgun.  I live in suburbia (couple hundred yards from an elementary school, no less) so over penetration is a real issue.  Plus, there&apos;s not exactly any good sniping positions in the house where I&apos;d have time to aim.  Point, Yes. Aim, maybe for you pro&apos;s, but not for this newb :-)

Now, what about shooting range weapons, both handgun and rifle and which if I can only get one?

Keep in mind, I&apos;m a relative newbie with a limited (but not scrawny) budget living in suburbia (not much, if anything, beyond 100 yards within driving distance).


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    <published>2005-08-04T20:03:13Z</published>
    <updated>2005-08-04T20:03:13Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-08-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sgt. B.</name>
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        I found a nice Maverick (by Mossberg) was a good deal for home defense.

You&apos;ll want to take a look at where you would be forced to shoot (you want to see where any potential rounds would go beyond the intended target.)  Shotgun rounds won&apos;t go as far through walls as pistol or rifle rounds.

You also want to take into account what condition you&apos;d be in when you might have to engage a target.  If you were roused out of a sound sleep in the middle of the night, you might want to stay with a shotgun for the shot pattern, as the situation may not be condusive to pinpoint marksmanship.
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    <published>2005-08-04T19:08:00Z</published>
    <updated>2005-08-04T19:08:00Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4411-comment:30400</id>
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    <title>Comment from Masked Menace© on 2005-08-04</title>
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        One of these days I really must go out and get me a weapon(s).

Any suggestions?

Home defense: certainly a 12 gauge pump shotgun, but what manufacturer? Any thing else?

Rifle?

Handgun?
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    <published>2005-08-04T19:03:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-08-04</title>
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        Exactly!
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    <published>2005-08-04T15:04:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-08-04</title>
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        <name>Barb</name>
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        <![CDATA[Sgt B - Maybe "E-Postal Matches"?  Like <a href="http://www.softgreenglow.com/mt/archives/2005/08/epostal_match_s.html" rel="nofollow"><b>this</b></a>.
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    <published>2005-08-04T06:08:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-08-03</title>
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        I&apos;m in...  When?

How about the first Blog-Match?

We could agree on all of the particulars, as well as a prize for the top three shooters...  (What did they used to call them?  NRA Postal Matches?)

I submit my M1911A1 Colt Gold Cup (National Match)...
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    <published>2005-08-03T23:00:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-08-03</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        I&apos;m thinking we need a Denizens With Guns post...
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    <published>2005-08-03T22:58:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-08-03</title>
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        Hey - a Shooting Fest!!  Whoopie!

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    <published>2005-08-03T22:17:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Beth on 2005-08-03</title>
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        John, I think it&apos;s time we go target shooting again - I want to post a target!!!
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    <published>2005-08-03T22:11:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-08-03</title>
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        I kinda liked it ...
That&apos;s 20 rounds of .22 at 25 feet, with 1 reload, since my AWB-era S&amp;W 622 came with a 10-round magazine :-)
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    <published>2005-08-03T20:16:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-08-03</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Um, that *is* a decent target though...
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    <published>2005-08-03T19:58:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-08-03</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Feh!  Old news!  Last night!  Last night!  Last night!
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    <published>2005-08-03T19:56:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-08-03</title>
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        <![CDATA[John - Don't you remember the <a href="http://www.fototime.com/BA8BE3453647C1A/standard.jpg" rel="nofollow"><b>target I posted</b></a> a couple of weeks ago??? 
Truth be told - none of mine from last night were too great, but I was more focused on teaching safety than on demonstrating marksmanship!
[That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!!]


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    <published>2005-08-03T19:53:21Z</published>
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