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Heh. Just heh.

By The Armorer on August 4, 2005 | | Comments (31) | TrackBacks (1)

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FM Radio This unusual weapon is a functional FM radio with earphones that is worn on a belt but also conceals a gun. Law enforcement officers should be aware of the possible threat of this object.

H/t, Dave M.

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According to a New York Times editorial titled "Guns in the Parking Lot", 'Most Americans' agree with employers like ConocoPhillips when they ban employees from driving around with firearms in their cars. Read More

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By vilmar on August 4, 2005 3:11 PM
Ooooooh...where can I get me one?
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 4, 2005 3:20 PM
*turns to server logs to see how soon ATFE starts tracking Vilmar's IP...*
 
By Barb on August 4, 2005 3:23 PM
Huh - Vilmar stole my thought ;-)
 
By jimmyb on August 4, 2005 3:32 PM
Sweeeeet. Is that a Beretta in there?
 
By John of Argghhh! on August 4, 2005 3:38 PM
I haven't taken the time to check yet! Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?
 
By Justthisguy on August 4, 2005 3:42 PM
Beat me to it, Jimmy. I was about to write, "Is that one of those little cute-but-mostly-useless little tip-barrel Berettae?" Had a bad experience with one of those, once. Went to visit the sister of a friend's wife, one time. Sis was not home, F's W and I approached house with key. The door fell open as soon as I touched it. Uh oh! F's W runs to truck, grabs Beretta, presses it into my hand. I nervously attempted to chamber a round. Now I'm not very big and strong, but managed to jerk the slide off the piece, exposing those silly wire hairpin recoil springs. Turned out there were no burglars or nuthin, just a forgetting to lock the door. It took a while with a screwdriver to get that thing apart enough to put it back together. Nah, for emergencies I want a revolver, or at least a stouter autoloader.
 
By Justthisguy on August 4, 2005 4:05 PM
Betcha $5 it's a Beretta very like the one I mentioned above, JoA. Note the distinctive decoration on the grip scales and the cut-away forward portion of the slide, and the sexy curves at the hind end. Of course I don't see a hammer, so it ain't exactly the same, but the *gestalt* yells Beretta into my little mind. Wait! It does have a hammer! Hard to see, the way it's lit, but, yup, it's one a' them little .22/.25 pieces. I think it's the one that came in either .22 Short or .25 Auto, not the one in .22LR.
 
By Boquisucio on August 4, 2005 4:11 PM
How quuute that diddle Beretta .32 Auto Tomcat!!! 100% manufactured right in this here County that I reside. Pitty though, that the socialist running this workers paradise - aka Suburban Maryland, are running this industry out of the state.
 
By Boquisucio on August 4, 2005 4:15 PM
Oh, BTW 'ere's the link, JTG.
 
By Justthisguy on August 4, 2005 4:20 PM
Serves 'em right for putting the factory in a town with such a silly name. When you say Accokeek, I say "Gesundheit!" Oh, and how do you know it's the .32, and not the smaller caliber. The Armorer and I did not shake hands on that bet, but I'll pay up if wrong. It does seem "very like" the Bearcat .25 or whatever Beretta calls the cute little pretentious thing.
 
By Justthisguy on August 4, 2005 4:26 PM
Boqui, yer last post appeared while I was answering the one before. Yup, appears to be the .32, which is very like the .25. I'll let JoA be sole judge as to whether or not I owe him on this one.
 
By MCart on August 4, 2005 6:37 PM
BATFE won't care about it. Well, depending on where you are and whether you have a CPL. I could carry that legally here in the slightly-less-communist-than-California state of Washington.. Not confidently, but legally. Even a .380 would leave me uneasy about it's effectiveness, should I need it. If it fails to penetrate someone's rib buckle, or skull, my time would be better spent looking for a stout candlestick to defend myself with. Smallest I carry is 9mm, but only in +P+. Even my wife carries a .45.
 
By Neffi on August 4, 2005 7:59 PM
hmmm the slide on a Beretta .32 shouldn't come off unless the barrel has been released and then tipped forward past it's stop... mebbe F's W's H had played around with the mechs of the piece? It's amazing, the number of 'Bubba'ed' pistols there are floating around out there. Nothing wrong with the Tomcat- even in .32. BECUZZZZ... - that was all that was available at the time! Or you could just wish you had the .45 you left at home... I'm not talking about you, McCart if you carry regular. But I do get the occasional chuckle when listening to the 'big-and-slow' crowd talk about how good they are with a .45 and how they wouldn't never ever carry no dang puny mouse-gun to a gunfight- and then I whip out the Sig and ask them where their .45s are! "Uhhh... in the truck/house/shop" is the usual reply... heh I practice regularly and my standard is 'draw fron concealed carry, double-tap center-of-mass' in less than 2 seconds- twenty feet to the target. I use a five-inch circle as the aiming point, no 10X rings for me. This is purely defensive shooting, and yes- if I knew I was gonna be in a fire-fight I would carry a shorty 12 guage; but that's illegal and hard to conceal. My light and handy Sig stoked with eight rounds of 90-grain .380 Federal HydraShocks does me just fine... Your mileage may vary. ;)
 
By Neffi on August 4, 2005 8:04 PM
ps- I like that bumper sticker: ATFE SHOULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE, NOT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY heh- all my favorite stuff under one roof- a guy can dream...
 
By Barb on August 4, 2005 8:23 PM
Neffi - I like your choice. After all - two rounds of .380 on target are better than 10 rounds of .45 that miss the target, and MUCH better than nothing when you need it.
 
By Craig on August 4, 2005 8:28 PM
Carry a .25 ACP if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody -- and he finds out about it -- he may be very angry with you.
 
By Boquisucio on August 4, 2005 8:49 PM
Hear - Hear Neff. Accuracy and Power, are better than Accuracy and Pokey. However, Accuracy and Pokey beats Inaccuracy and Power any time. As the sage curator of cutlery stated:
If I knew I was gonna be in a fire-fight I would carry a shorty 12 gauge
Accuracy and Power. However there is much disrespect for the smaller calibers. Poor .32's Poor .25's and Poor .22's, Brawny men of Inflated Egoes and Small Brains deem you worthy of girly-girls, and of plinkin' cans. Does anyone remember that kook from Boston, about ten years ago, who went on his personal Abortion Clinic Closing Crusade? If memory serves me right, his rampage from Massachusetts through Virginia, took the lives of eight fellow humans with the use of a simple and "winnie" .22LR. As diddle pup, the first thing I learnt, before I was allowed even to touch a firearm was to respect its lethality no matter its caliber.
 
By Neffi on August 4, 2005 9:19 PM
All too true, Boq- and I'll bet that .22s, .25s, and .32s have filled more mortuary slabs than the bigger calibres combined. But they ain't manly, you know. When I held an FFL I had a customer who insisted he needed a S&W .44 Magnum, stainless steel with six-inch barrel. For self-defense... I tried to talk him into something more sensible like a .357 mag or 9mm, or even a .44 Special. But he was dead set on the M29 in .44 Mag- "cuz Harry Callahan carried one"... his words. I got one for him; he seemed pretty awed at the size and weight of the thing, he'd never seen one before [in the flesh, as it were]. Some weeks later I bought it back from him after he'd fired a couple of rounds- at a good profit for me- and then passed it on to a S&W collector, for another profit. Fast shots on target count; big-gun machismo falls to the ground wondering why the sky is going dark..
 
By Justthisguy on August 4, 2005 9:22 PM
The slide did not come *all the way* off, that was the problem. As I wrote above, I had to figure out how to take the thing the rest of the way apart, before I could put it back together again. Had to get a file and work on a screwdriver with it to get something that would fit some of those screws. Argghhh!!! (Please, Sir, may I have 100 more !s?)
 
By Neffi on August 4, 2005 10:05 PM
...but JTG, we know how ya like to take tools to the goodies [JoA whimpers in the background] heh
 
By Stormy Dragon on August 4, 2005 11:02 PM
The legality of the radio gun holder depends on whether or not you have to remove the gun from the radio in order to fire it. If you do, than it's legally considered a holster. If you can fire the gun while it's still in the radio, than the gun and radio together constitute an Class III AOW (Any Other Weapon). This would still be legal to posesses, provided you go through the proper procedure for registering as such.
 
By MCart on August 4, 2005 11:45 PM
Fair points on whether you carry it or not. A .380 in your jacket is more effective than the .45 you left at home, certainly. But. The only time I personally leave a gun at home, is when I'm going someplace guns are not allowed, such as work. My 9mm is a full sized autoloader, but I have no trouble concealing it, or with the weight of the polymer frame. It's the Springfield import of the CZ-2000, slightly retooled as an XD. Ranges don't generally approve of quick draw practice with a loaded weapon, so I do really need to work on my draw. Depending on whether my vest is closed or not, my draw-to-hit is closer to 3 seconds. Not great, but I'm pretty good at shooting on the move, so I can work in some improvement to my odds, even with the slower draw.
 
By MCart on August 4, 2005 11:48 PM
And the wife's .45... Well, lets just say the Taurus Millennium is just the cutest little thing that ever fired a freight train down it's bore. Its really not much bigger than that Beretta, but packs a MUCH bigger punch, without the danger of over-penetration that my 9mm +P+ have. She has no trouble with the recoil, so I don't think it'll be a problem.
 
By MCart on August 4, 2005 11:50 PM
(Bear with, your comment thing is rejecting something here, so i'm breaking my post up into pieces... Divide and Conquer) Best of all, I carry 15+1, she has 10+1, so our reloads are staggered, allowing better suppressing fire. :)
 
By MCart on August 4, 2005 11:50 PM
Personally, i'm not a big fan of large wheel guns. A Colt or any of the other REALLY big frame guns (Dirty Harry style) are not practical for much of anything, IMHO. If I need something that big, i'm grabbing the FAL out of it's tennis racket bag.
 
By Mcart on August 4, 2005 11:52 PM
(AH-HA! Your site has some kind of problem with the word 'pyth0n') But getting back to pistols, I forgot another caliber who's size and kick pretty much make the .380 and .32 pointless. The venerable .38 Special. A well made .38, even out of stainless, is not very heavy at all. It's barely bigger than the .32, and delivers much more energy than the .32. That's actually the smallest gun I've ever bought. Smallest I would ever recommend, even to a 'little person'. :) I have a couple .22 pistols, but they are absolutely not small at all (one's a 9 shot Sentinel) so they are useless for CCP's. Humans are pretty tough, and pretty quick, as far as animals go. Takes some doing to wreck one. A .22 LR can do it, properly placed, but I wouldn't want to depend on it. It's better for offing someone that doesn't expect it, and lets you get close, than to try and fend off an attacker.
   
By John of Argghhh! on August 5, 2005 6:14 AM
heh. It isn't *this morning*, go figure. Whatever the problem is, you worked around it. Kansas doesn't allow concealed carry, so I don't. And, to be truthful, I don't feel the need, anyway. I've got a 12 gauge Winchester 97 Trench Gun for Defense of the Castle. If I chose to start carrying, I would probably examine high quality 9mm/45 autoloaders and revolvers. Looking for the best combination of ease of carry and access, point-to-target handiness that matches my hand, style, and eye, and reliability. In other words, something that doesn't get in the way, that I can get to quickly, fits my shooting style, and won't want to spring off-target every time I pull the trigger. But for now, I'll just continue to maintain my situational awareness, and not go to places where I feel I probably *should* carry (which, at this point, would currently constitute one heckuva lot of downtown KC at night - but as Kat has noted, right now, there isn't a heckuva lot to *do* in downtown KC at night) and trust in the law of big numbers. Which doesn't mean I won't continue to ping state government on the carry issue - and if we were to make it legal in Kansas I'd get a permit... but I really don't think I would carry much. I've got local friends who don't share my "head in the sand" attitude, I assure you. I would just point out getting busted for a firearms violation would cost me my job, my clearance, my pension (while in jail anyway) and disability payment, and while SWWBO would probably be able to keep the house, the significant investment that is the Arsenal would go bye-bye, uncompensated, too. I know, "better judged by 12 than carried by 6," etc, but the truth is, given where and how I live, my risk assessment says I'm far far far more likely to get in trouble for carrying than I am to end up facing "Oh shite, I wish I had a gun on me right now" situation.
 
By Neffi on August 5, 2005 9:26 AM
And that's the best self-defence weapon anyone can pack- situational awareness. I don't go heeled at all times; I have a piece in a hidden compartment in the Jeep thats always available, but I carry on my person less frequently... it's just not necessary in Longmont. But I'm 6'2" and 190# and move confidently- I don't project 'possible victim' like some do. And it doesn't hurt that prospective muggers take one look at my clothing and figger I prolly don't have a dollar my name... heh
 
By MCart on August 5, 2005 11:32 AM
Colt Python
 
By MCart on August 5, 2005 11:33 AM
OH SURE! WORKS FINE NOW!!! :) Dunno what it's deal was, but untill I stripped that word from my posts last night, it just wasn't going to let me post it. Wierd.
 
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