We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:02:19 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification But not yet. First, my contribution to the Festival of the Links. Yesterday, John mentioned Dave Chappelle's views on the remoras who attach themselves to the Hollywood glitterati. Here's the Huntress' considerably more animated expansion on the theme. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I've had one or two [*whap*] *ow! okay--"a lot of"* unplanned excursions into the realm of Aviation Emergencies. And, just to prove the major players in the MSM aren't the... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html Mon, 16 May 2005 01:58:34 -0600 Oh yeah - We have a hankering for trekking up the NW, er SW for those above the 54th. I must admit that except my exposure to Canadian wines is very limited; I once sampled an ice wine from Quebec - a yummy sweet-sticky one. However, every single Columbia Valley wine that I've had, have always been excellent. Someday, I look forward to getting to know the Columbia Valley up close and personal, plus expanding my horizons into those tasty BC grapes. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24911 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24911 Tue, 17 May 2005 18:34:42 -0600 John the Wizard fixed 'em right quick - no problems ;-) We shall have to check out Zaca Mesa wines when we get a chance. If you like wine country - you need to set up a trip to the Okanagan Valley in SE British Columbia. BC wines are marvelous! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24887 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24887 Tue, 17 May 2005 14:48:46 -0600 Zaca Mesa Fess Parker ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24885 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24885 Tue, 17 May 2005 14:37:30 -0600 Boq - I loved Fess Parker Winery as well, stopped in there on our trip up to San Simeon. Zaca Mesa must be new, though - I don't recognize it. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24883 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24883 Tue, 17 May 2005 14:12:29 -0600 Zaca Mesa, and Fess Parker at Los Olivos. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24869 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24869 Tue, 17 May 2005 11:40:04 -0600 Fie! Fie I say! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24868 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24868 Tue, 17 May 2005 11:17:04 -0600 Sorry, John - a ride in a helo with Bill at the controls is a leetle more exciting than providing another geegaw for the Armorer. Don't pout ;-) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24861 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24861 Tue, 17 May 2005 10:34:17 -0600 Feh! I drop hints alla time about Kewl Stuff for the Castle, and all y'all wanna do is buy Bill a helikopeeter. Fie! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24845 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24845 Tue, 17 May 2005 06:41:01 -0600 Heehee - You're on, Flutterby! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24839 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24839 Tue, 17 May 2005 01:25:58 -0600 Hey! Speaking of supply guys and *stuff* how come the blogson gets rotor parts and the Arsenal doesn't?" Think it's easy scrounging milparts when your source has been laid off, too? Think I've been sitting around all day on my butt, listening to KtLW's Standard Lecture #3? Heh. [*whispers*] score. *with* documentation. E-M yer shipping addy. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24837 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24837 Tue, 17 May 2005 00:22:34 -0600 Bill, you kept me from being hit by cars in traffic. Of course I trust you as a pilot. I still want the ride? Barb, I'm in for the donation buttons for Bill's aircraft. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24836 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24836 Tue, 17 May 2005 00:17:26 -0600 AFSister's place. Punct made some tea - BYOB...]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24833 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24833 Mon, 16 May 2005 23:02:23 -0600 Boq - Isn't the wine country around Santa Maria fun? It's been many years since I did that drive, worth the trek to see the Hearst estate. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24831 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24831 Mon, 16 May 2005 22:09:16 -0600 Si Seņor - Good to know that the low wattage once in a while flickers. Dunno whether you followed a prior post of mine. But I owe my life to Mr. Hearst himself. If the above Headline wouldn't have been drafted, the chromosomes of my Greatgrandaddy would have never made to my gene-pool. All Hail to Yellow Journalism!!! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24830 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24830 Mon, 16 May 2005 21:59:40 -0600 GREASY SPANIARDS SINK AMERICAN BATTLESHIP IN HAVANA HARBOUR!!! TO WAR!!!!!"]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24829 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24829 Mon, 16 May 2005 21:51:06 -0600 Ah San Simeon. Christmas 2000, we spent in Cambria. Took my lovely bride into LAX and made a bee-line on Route 1 up to Santa Barbara. Let's say that Except for Santa Monica, LA isn't our favorite town. From there up to San Luis Obispo, Cambria, Paso de los Robles and Solvang. Not to mention most of the Central Coast Wineries - YUMMM The highlight, though was the B&B in Cambria right on the beach along with San Simeon's Castle up the road. Both the inside and outside of the Castle was fully decked-out in full Christmas splendor. That Hearst dude sure knew how to live it up. You and Mr. Hearst can surely come up with great headlines. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24828 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24828 Mon, 16 May 2005 21:17:33 -0600 Boq, I'll take a check from the Hearst estate anytime... [waits hopefully by mailbox] but I dinna understand the ref to pushing any Yaller Rag. ps- I once buzzed the Hearst estate (in a Piper Comanche, belonged to my Dad). What a place... high on a bluff looking out over the Pacific, the mansion complete with pool surrounded by Grecian arches and well-tended grounds. The west-facing side of the 'house' has a huge balcony/deck built of redwood(?) that probably has more square footage than my house.... sigh http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24826 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24826 Mon, 16 May 2005 21:01:59 -0600 I once wrote the press release and then collected the articles published about it from around the country. Let's just say that I was clearly experiencing a different reality than a bunch of other folks. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24824 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24824 Mon, 16 May 2005 20:48:10 -0600 Now Neffi, Not only you are a great connoisseur of Damascus Steel, and accomplished aviator, and expert on the grill, but also a great Yellow Rag pusher. Mr. Hearst would be impressed. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24820 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24820 Mon, 16 May 2005 18:22:52 -0600 Targeting is such a harsh word Cricket, and given the insanity of journo's and journo-hangers on it's playing right into their diseased mind state: The US military is trying to kill journalists! Newsweak(or for those who read The Blogfather, Todd) is getting beaten up a bit. Isikoff may not go down like Rather did in a hail of e-bullets fired by the pajamihadeen, but their credibility is suffering and radio stations are dropping Todd's reportage from their broadcasts. And I wonder how Eric Alterman can say 'What liberal media' with a straight face. Glad to know that the addage, 'Any landing you can walk away from...', holds Bill. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24819 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24819 Mon, 16 May 2005 17:28:38 -0600 I was going insert a snark filled comment here, but out of deference to those who have BTDT, I will say that Newsweek needs to have something done to it. Badly. Why aren't we targeting more journalists from that organization? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24817 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24817 Mon, 16 May 2005 16:12:21 -0600 THIS is the media that can't be trusted. HA! ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24797 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24797 Mon, 16 May 2005 12:07:41 -0600 If we work it right, we could BUY him a chopper... Mebbe, on a serious note, there are aviation companies looking for pilots, or, taking it a step further, a Manager for their aviation department... (I'm thinking forestry, news - if you can stomach it), exploration, tourism...) Think about it! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24794 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24794 Mon, 16 May 2005 11:20:20 -0600 Hey! Speaking of supply guys and *stuff* how come the blogson gets rotor parts and the Arsenal doesn't? http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24793 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24793 Mon, 16 May 2005 11:18:09 -0600 We could put up a donations button for the BillT retirement / helicopter rides fund ;-) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24792 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24792 Mon, 16 May 2005 11:09:32 -0600 "DARING AVIATOR SNATCHES VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF FLAMING DEATH!!!", I not only wouldn't have written the letter, I'd have made sure they spelled my name right! Ladies - Yer making me blush. I wasn't all that good a pilot. [*whap*] YIPE! Okay. I wouldn't be alive if I wasn't. Ummmm...and one of the Supply Guys did square me away with an extra helmet (SPH-4 and outmoded, but still workable--now all I need is the aircraft...hmmmmm)]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24790 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24790 Mon, 16 May 2005 10:58:02 -0600 Way to tell the bastids, Bill! I don't think the 'editors' are paying very close attention to most of the crap they print these days, from the evidence. As for helicopter rides - You promised me one in Hubert a l-o-n-g time ago! So if you pilot a helo anywhere, I'd better be on it, Mister! [*scowls cutely*] http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24787 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24787 Mon, 16 May 2005 09:46:41 -0600 I would fly with the Chief even though helos scare me to death. Glad to see you safe on terra firma and telling these people to get their facts straight. Heh. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24786 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24786 Mon, 16 May 2005 09:39:02 -0600 It's all about sexing it up, Chief... Editor- "hmmm need a headline for this story... "CHOPPER MAKES UNEVENTFUL LANDING"... nah. "DARING AVIATOR SNATCHES VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF FLAMING DEATH!!!" Yeah... COPYBOY! " http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24783 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24783 Mon, 16 May 2005 09:24:50 -0600 well... *wink*" you mean "I've had a serious change of mind"--I don't blame you one bit. I get nervous flying with me, too... ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24779 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24779 Mon, 16 May 2005 06:54:56 -0600 LMAO...that's too funny. I was trying to figure out how you could make all those corrections for the editor. On a different note, remember when I asked you for a ride sometime in a helicopter if I don't get the opportunity to pilot one myself? Well... *wink* Great post!!!! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24776 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/05/the_other_side_of_the_tins.html#comment-24776 Mon, 16 May 2005 04:04:59 -0600