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  <title>Comments for The other side of the TINS</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-05-16T06:58:34Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:53:02Z</updated>
    <title>The other side of the TINS</title>
    <summary>But not yet. First, my contribution to the Festival of the Links. Yesterday, John mentioned Dave Chappelle&apos;s views on the remoras who attach themselves to the Hollywood glitterati. Here&apos;s the Huntress&apos; considerably more animated expansion on the theme. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I&apos;ve had one or two [*whap*] *ow! okay--&quot;a lot of&quot;* unplanned excursions into the realm of Aviation Emergencies. And, just to prove the major players in the MSM aren&apos;t the...</summary>
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      <name>Bill</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>But not yet. First, my contribution to the Festival of the Links. Yesterday, John mentioned Dave Chappelle's views on the remoras who attach themselves to the Hollywood glitterati. Here's the Huntress' considerably more animated <a href="http://tvshogal.blogspot.com/2005/05/his-inner-struggle.html"><b>expansion </b></a>on the theme.</p>

<p>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *</p>

<p>I've had one or two [*whap*] *ow! okay--"a lot of"* unplanned excursions into the realm of Aviation Emergencies. And, just to prove the major players in the MSM aren't the only ones spinning otherwise factual stories into "events that never were"--from the Big Bag o' Trons comes:</p>

<p>CW4 William S. Tuttle<br />
AASF #1 (NJARNG)<br />
Trenton-Mercer Airport<br />
West Trenton, NJ  08628-1302</p>

<p>Mr. H.L. Schwartz III<br />
The Trentonian<br />
600 Perry Street<br />
Trenton, NJ  08602                                                                                     </p>

<p>Dear sir;</p>

<p>Reference the above item [note: refers to a newspaper clipping pasted to the original letter. Didn't take here, cuz the paste won't stick to the monitor, for some reason...] which appeared on page 3 of May 13th’s <b>Trentonian</b>--there are four factual errors in a filler only four sentences long, which may cause you--as Editor-- some consternation.<br />
 <br />
First, the pilot never stated that he “might have to crash land;” he said he would have to make a “running landing,” which is the prescribed emergency procedure for a hydraulic failure in this particular helicopter.<br />
  <br />
Second, “10 tense minutes” did not elapse; the aircraft was on the runway three minutes after the pilot’s initial call to the control tower.</p>

<p>Third, the pilot never called the tower and said that “the problem suddenly corrected itself.”  The <i>second</i> radio transmission between the pilot and the controller took place after the aircraft landed; the controller asked the pilot if he would be shutting down on the runway, and the pilot answered, “Yes--there’s a ground crew coming over to tow it off.”</p>

<p>Fourth, the problem never “corrected itself;” if it had, the running landing would have been unnecessary.</p>

<p>Still, it was an improvement over your coverage of a similar incident which occurred last year, in which the pilot was reported to have crashed the aircraft into the runway--resulting, astoundingly enough, in no damage to either pilot or helicopter.  </p>

<p>If your staff writers ever evince curiosity about the difference between an<br />
“emergency landing” and a “crash landing,” feel free to call me--I was the helicopter pilot in both incidents.   <br />
   <br />
WILLIAM S. TUTTLE<br />
Chief Warrant Officer Four<br />
New Jersey Army National Guard <br />
(phone number deleted as obsolete. billt) </p>

<p>Nope. They didn't call...heh. </p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24911</id>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Boquisucio</name>
        
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        Oh yeah - We have a hankering for trekking up the NW, er SW for those above the 54th.  

I must admit that except my exposure to Canadian wines is very limited; I once sampled an ice wine from Quebec - a yummy sweet-sticky one.

However, every single Columbia Valley wine that I&apos;ve had, have always been excellent.  Someday, I look forward to getting to know the Columbia Valley up close and personal, plus expanding my horizons into those tasty BC grapes.
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    <published>2005-05-17T23:34:42Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-17T23:34:42Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24887</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
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        John the Wizard fixed &apos;em right quick - no problems ;-)

We shall have to check out Zaca Mesa wines when we get a chance.  If you like wine country - you need to set up a trip to the Okanagan Valley in SE British Columbia.  BC wines are marvelous!
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    <published>2005-05-17T19:48:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24885</id>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-17</title>
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        <![CDATA[Who would have thunk it.  The guy with the Coon Cap doesn't make skunked wine.  

Zaca Mesa happens to be about a mile west from Fess Parker.  They make a mean Syrah

Don't know what happened with the Links, thought I'd composed in propper HTML:

<b><a href="http://www.zacamesa.com/" rel="nofollow">Zaca Mesa</a></b>

<b><a href="http://www.fessparker.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">Fess Parker</a></b>


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    <published>2005-05-17T19:37:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24883</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
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        Boq - I loved Fess Parker Winery as well, stopped in there on our trip up to San Simeon.  Zaca Mesa must be new, though - I don&apos;t recognize it.  
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    <published>2005-05-17T19:12:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-17</title>
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        <![CDATA[Oh yea Barb,  Loved them wineries around Santa Maria and Santa Ynez.

Amongst my favorites:  <b><a href="http:\\www.zacamesa.com/" rel="nofollow">Zaca Mesa</a></b>, and <b><a href="http:\\www.fessparker.com/" rel="nofollow">Fess Parker</a></b> at Los Olivos.
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    <published>2005-05-17T16:40:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-05-17</title>
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        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
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        Fie!  Fie I say!
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    <published>2005-05-17T16:17:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-17</title>
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        <name>Barb</name>
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        Sorry, John - a ride in a helo with Bill at the controls is a leetle more exciting than providing another geegaw for the Armorer.  Don&apos;t pout ;-)
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    <published>2005-05-17T15:34:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-05-17</title>
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        Feh!  I drop hints alla time about Kewl Stuff for the Castle, and all y&apos;all wanna do is buy Bill a helikopeeter.

Fie!
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    <published>2005-05-17T11:41:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-17</title>
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        Heehee - You&apos;re on, Flutterby!
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    <published>2005-05-17T06:25:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2005-05-17</title>
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        <![CDATA["<i>Hey! Speaking of supply guys and *stuff* how come the blogson gets rotor parts and the Arsenal doesn't?</i>"

Think it's easy scrounging milparts when your source has been laid off, too?

Think I've been sitting around all day on my butt, listening to KtLW's Standard Lecture #3?

Heh. [*whispers*] score. *with* documentation.

E-M yer shipping addy.

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    <published>2005-05-17T05:22:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Desult on 2005-05-17</title>
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        Bill, you kept me from being hit by cars in traffic. Of course I trust you as a pilot. I still want the ride? 

Barb, I&apos;m in for the donation buttons for Bill&apos;s aircraft.
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    <published>2005-05-17T05:17:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[If you guys feel like a little comment party - come over to <a href="http://mysideofthepuddle.blogspot.com/2005/05/and-one-more-thing.html" rel="nofollow">AFSister's place</a>.  Punct made some tea - BYOB...]]>
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    <published>2005-05-17T04:02:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-16</title>
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        Boq - Isn&apos;t the wine country around Santa Maria fun?  It&apos;s been many years since I did that drive, worth the trek to see the Hearst estate.
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    <published>2005-05-17T03:09:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-16</title>
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        Si Señor - Good to know that the low wattage once in a while flickers.

Dunno whether you followed a prior post of mine.  But I owe my life to Mr. Hearst himself.  If the above Headline wouldn&apos;t have been drafted, the chromosomes of my Greatgrandaddy would have never made to my gene-pool.

All Hail to Yellow Journalism!!!
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    <published>2005-05-17T02:59:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-05-16</title>
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        <![CDATA[heh- slowly doth the light shine in, Boq....
"<b><i>GREASY SPANIARDS SINK AMERICAN BATTLESHIP IN HAVANA HARBOUR!!! TO WAR!!!!!"</i></b>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-17T02:51:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-16</title>
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        <name>Boquisucio</name>
        
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        Ah San Simeon.

Christmas 2000, we spent in Cambria. Took my lovely bride into LAX and made a bee-line on Route 1 up to Santa Barbara.  Let&apos;s say that Except for Santa Monica, LA isn&apos;t our favorite town.  From there up to San Luis Obispo, Cambria, Paso de los Robles and Solvang.  Not to mention most of the Central Coast Wineries - YUMMM

The highlight, though was the B&amp;B in Cambria right on the beach along with San Simeon&apos;s Castle up the road.  Both the inside and outside of the Castle was fully decked-out in full Christmas splendor.  That Hearst dude sure knew how to live it up.

You and Mr. Hearst can surely come up with great headlines.
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    <published>2005-05-17T02:17:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-05-16</title>
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        Boq, I&apos;ll take a check from the Hearst estate anytime... [waits hopefully by mailbox] but I dinna understand the ref to pushing any Yaller Rag.
ps- I once buzzed the Hearst estate (in a Piper Comanche, belonged to my Dad). What a place... high on a bluff looking out over the Pacific, the mansion complete with pool surrounded by Grecian arches and well-tended grounds. The west-facing side  of the &apos;house&apos; has a huge balcony/deck built of redwood(?) that probably has more square footage than my house....   sigh
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    <published>2005-05-17T02:01:59Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-17T02:01:59Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24824</id>
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    <title>Comment from Punctilious on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Punctilious</name>
        <uri>http://blogoram.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://blogoram.com">
        I once wrote the press release and then collected the articles published about it from around the country.  Let&apos;s just say that I was clearly experiencing a different reality than a bunch of other folks.  
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-17T01:48:10Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-17T01:48:10Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24820</id>
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    <title>Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Boquisucio</name>
        
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        Now Neffi, Not only you are a great connoisseur of Damascus Steel, and accomplished aviator, and expert on the grill, but also a great Yellow Rag pusher.  Mr. Hearst would be impressed.
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    <published>2005-05-16T23:22:52Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T23:22:52Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24819</id>
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    <title>Comment from ry on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>ry</name>
        
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        Targeting is such a harsh word Cricket, and given the insanity of journo&apos;s and journo-hangers on it&apos;s playing right into their diseased mind state:  The US military is trying to kill journalists!
Newsweak(or for those who read The Blogfather,  Todd) is getting beaten up a bit.  Isikoff may not go down like Rather did in a hail of e-bullets fired by the pajamihadeen, but their credibility is suffering and radio stations are dropping Todd&apos;s reportage from their broadcasts.  
And I wonder how Eric Alterman can say &apos;What liberal media&apos; with a straight face.

Glad to know that the addage, &apos;Any landing you can walk away from...&apos;, holds Bill.  
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T22:28:38Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T22:28:38Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24817</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cricket</name>
        
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        I was going insert a snark filled comment here, but out of deference to those who have BTDT, I will say that Newsweek needs to have something done to it. 

Badly.  Why aren&apos;t we targeting more journalists from that organization?  
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T21:12:21Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T21:12:21Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24797</id>
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    <title>Comment from SangerM on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>SangerM</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[I have been in news articles a few times (once with my picture), and an eyewitness to events that made the news about 3-4 times.  In EVERY case, the facts reported were not the corrects facts in some way.  This included incorrect names, locations, unit missions, events, results, etc.  Not once did they get it right, even when I made sure the info was correct.

Consequently, I have absolutely no faith in the print news media whatsoever, and I don't even trust what they show on video, because a camera has tunnel vision and you just don't know what's happening off-screen or if something has been spliced.  The best I figure one can say is something happened in someplace and some people and some things were involved.  facts could follow, but not for sure....

In fact, the self-imposed almost-instant factchecking nature of the blogging world makes me believe what I read here much more than what I read in the print-mainstream media.  And they think <i><b>THIS</b></i> is the media that can't be trusted.  HA!

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    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T17:07:41Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T17:07:41Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24794</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sgt. B.</name>
        
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    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        If we work it right, we could BUY him a chopper...  Mebbe, on a serious note, there are aviation companies looking for pilots, or, taking it a step further, a Manager for their aviation department...  (I&apos;m thinking forestry, news - if you can stomach it), exploration, tourism...)  Think about it!
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T16:20:20Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T16:20:20Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>John of Argghhh!</name>
        <uri>http://www.thedonovan.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.thedonovan.com">
        Hey!  Speaking of supply guys and *stuff* how come the blogson gets rotor parts and the Arsenal doesn&apos;t?
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T16:18:09Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T16:18:09Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24792</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://barbette.blogspot.com">
        We could put up a donations button for the BillT retirement / helicopter rides fund ;-)
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T16:09:32Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T16:09:32Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24790</id>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>cw4(ret)billt</name>
        
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        <![CDATA[Neffi - If the head had read <i>"DARING AVIATOR SNATCHES VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF FLAMING DEATH!!!"</i>, I not only wouldn't have written the letter, I'd have made sure they spelled my name right!

Ladies - Yer making me blush. I wasn't all <i>that</i> good a pilot.
[*whap*] YIPE!
Okay. I wouldn't be alive if I wasn't. Ummmm...and one of the Supply Guys did square me away with an extra helmet (SPH-4 and outmoded, but still workable--now all I need is the aircraft...hmmmmm)]]>
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    <published>2005-05-16T15:58:02Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T15:58:02Z</updated>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24787</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barb on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barb</name>
        <uri>http://barbette.blogspot.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://barbette.blogspot.com">
        Way to tell the bastids, Bill!  I don&apos;t think the &apos;editors&apos; are paying very close attention to most of the crap they print these days, from the evidence.

As for helicopter rides - You promised me one in Hubert a l-o-n-g time ago!  So if you pilot a helo anywhere, I&apos;d better be on it, Mister!  
[*scowls cutely*]
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T14:46:41Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T14:46:41Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24786</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cricket on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cricket</name>
        
    </author>
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        I would fly with the Chief even though helos scare me to death.  

Glad to see you safe on terra firma and telling these people to get their facts straight.

Heh.


    </content>
    <published>2005-05-16T14:39:02Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T14:39:02Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Neffi on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Neffi</name>
        
    </author>
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        It&apos;s all about sexing it up, Chief...
 Editor- &quot;hmmm need a headline for this story... &quot;CHOPPER MAKES UNEVENTFUL LANDING&quot;... nah. &quot;DARING AVIATOR SNATCHES VICTORY FROM THE JAWS OF FLAMING DEATH!!!&quot;  Yeah... COPYBOY! &quot;
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    <published>2005-05-16T14:24:50Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T14:24:50Z</updated>
  </entry>
  
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.4041-comment:24779</id>
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    <title>Comment from cw4(ret)billt on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[Hi, Flutterby! If by "<i>well... *wink*</i>" you mean "I've had a serious change of mind"--I don't blame you one bit.

I get nervous flying with me, too...
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    <published>2005-05-16T11:54:56Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T11:54:56Z</updated>
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    <title>Comment from Desult on 2005-05-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Desult</name>
        <uri>http://www.desultorybutterfly.blogspot.com</uri>
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        LMAO...that&apos;s too funny. I was trying to figure out how you could make all those corrections for the editor.

On a different note, remember when I asked you for a ride sometime in a helicopter if I don&apos;t get the opportunity to pilot one myself? Well... *wink*

Great post!!!!
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    <published>2005-05-16T09:04:59Z</published>
    <updated>2005-05-16T09:04:59Z</updated>
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