Comments for Okay - we did it with Bill, now let's do it with me.

Okay - we did it with Bill, now let's do it with me.

2005-02-24T15:35:27Z

Get yer mind out of the gutter.

This is the Arsenal's Chinese Type 51 Pistol, a copy of the Soviet TT33. Like "Hubert," Twitchy Bill's Trusty Steed, this pistol and its previous owner had a tough day at the office.

Unlike Twitchy and Hubert, the pistol's then-owner did not survive the encounter. Evidence of the encounter is visible on the pistol. How many hits do you see?

Click here for hi-res.

Comment from Robert From NC on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T04:33:06Z

Oh, and by the way, I only see 3 hits on the pistol, since the notch in the slide ahead of the slide release is there for takedown purposes, and I'm betting the grip area was covered by the wielder's hand. (Shadowy areas on the grip appear to be logo and lanyard ring)

Comment from Robert From NC on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T04:24:14Z

I once owned a No 1 Mk III Lee Enfield whose former user had had a very bad day. The forward end of the forestock/handguard and the rear part of the buttstock were completely filled with chunks of ragged metal on the left side. The area not affected corresponded to where a human torso would have protected the stock. Sorta felt creepy holding the rifle and imagining an HE round or grenade going off behind me.

Comment from gunner on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T03:44:27Z

Well the Chinese have delt with Albania and Cuba alot. so I say it may be from the Yugoslavian-Kosovo area, or Grenada. I also see only the 6 dings

Comment from Neffi on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T01:57:49Z

I see four hits fer sher... and I expect that on a dark, still night- with the moon glowly softly through the mists swirling about the Redoubt of Castle Arrgh- a somewhat tattered spectre drifts slowly through the halls and chambers... seeking his pistol... [flicker of blue light; rolling crash of thunder] oooooohhh...

Comment from cowboy blob on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T01:50:43Z

Anybody know where "Factory 66" is? My 213 is stamped with a 66 within a triangle; absolutely no Chinese stampings.

Comment from Justthisguy on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T01:05:41Z

I saw four dings. I imagine you've cleaned it. My (definitely, but still talks to me) ex-sweety has an Arisaka her Daddy brought home (late production, with gross tool marks) which has its Mum and some "brown" stains on the stock. She is absolutely opposed to cleaning off the "protein stains."

Comment from cw4billt on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T01:04:55Z

Brian H - That's the half-ring the lanyard clips to.

Comment from Brian H on 2005-02-24

2005-02-25T00:06:51Z

cw; I saw the same, plus a possible in the lower right corner of the grip. That's pretty fuzzy, but there's a streak and dimple I can't explain otherwise there.

Comment from John of Arghhh! on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T21:08:54Z

SGT B - yep, and I should correct the earlier... the sent/recieved ratio from the pistol's perspective was 1 to 30, not the other way around.

Comment from Sgt. B. on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T20:48:21Z

*grin* Belts, huh? Since it didn't leave the field with its owner, and assuming that the owner didn't leave under his own steam... Does it really matter..?

Comment from Barb on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T17:27:32Z

Late as usual, I see. Even at highest res, I only see 4, myself. Ouch, indeed.

Comment from SangerM on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T17:18:06Z

Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T17:11:07Z

John, Certainly, for its day the Tokarev was the cat's meow. At an age in which the best that the EuroWeenies could match was the 6.35x16mm, the TT was a Tiger in comparison. And besides, a parent's love is unconditional; specialy to his adopted children.

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T17:10:01Z

What Muffy said. The individual holding the pistol had just finished really pissing someone off by shooting it at them. Those were the 'ti-ti' hits. The sent/returned ratio was about 30 to 1. Then the belt had to be changed.

Comment from name muffy the merciless on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T17:04:39Z

Claymore wouldn't have left that much pistol to be picked up.

Comment from SangerM on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:54:36Z

Actually, could this have belonged to someone on the wrong side of a claymore? Looks possible. . .

Comment from SangerM on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:40:38Z

I see 4, but there could be one more toward the front (a hazy area.) Which leads me to wonder, if the gun got hit 4 times, how many times did the owner get hit. Ouch. -SangerM

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:38:48Z

It's a 1966, for clarity's sake. Made at Factory 66. It did *not* however, come from where you might expect from that date.

Comment from cw4billt on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:36:40Z

Looks like six definite Close Encounters of the Third Kind with an M-79 round and two possibles, for a guess of eight: 1. Sleeve above safety. 2. Two possibles on top of sleeve, just to the right of #1. 3. Trigger. 4. Frame between grip and trigger. 5. Two on rear of frame, one intruding into grip. 6. Just below "8" of "1968." Lot of minor dings and pitting (good ol' ChiCom backyard blast-furnace steel).

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:25:43Z

It was an orphan, what could I do? Actually - I like the Tokarevs as shooters. Fit my hand comfortably, reasonably accurate. Not the most potent round, perhaps... but who uses just one anyway?

Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:19:20Z

A 1966 Vintage, 7.62x25mm Tokarev Chink Knock-off. Nice museum piece; though I wouldn't like to get poked by one. Of all the baby pictures, its good to see that were willing to adopt even ugly ducklings like that. Good thing for you that its previous parent wasn't too quick on its trigger. At a quick glace, I count Four (4) chips: Middle-Rear Slide, Trigger, Lower Receiver, and Lower-Rear Hand Grip.

Comment from cowboy blob on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:12:48Z

I see 4 hits.

Comment from AFSister on 2005-02-24

2005-02-24T16:11:23Z

6, maybe 7??