Comments for Look boss! Da plene! Da plene!

Look boss! Da plene! Da plene!

2005-02-27T17:25:02Z

Looking back over the last coupla week's posts, I see we've been neglecting a segment of our audience. We've had tanks, firearms, submarines, Marines... but I don't see any airplanes. Well we did have that English-Electric munchkin.

Soooo... let's have a multi-national moment of Aero-Zen.

Two RAF Phantoms flying by a Castle in, I assume, Germany. I at first glance thought it was Neuschwanstein Castle in Bavaria. ... except for being the wrong shape, color, and not in the mountains...

Anybody know which castle that is?

Comment from Cricket on 2005-03-01

2005-03-01T15:55:27Z

Click on my name to view this lovely castle. The site is in English, easy to navigate and best of all, there is a webcam. The first of the Castle Tours!

Comment from Nosmo on 2005-02-28

2005-03-01T02:48:41Z

It is Hohenzollern. Found a picture taken from below in a coffetable book "Castles and Fortresses"

Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T17:58:16Z

John, Yer right; did a little fact checking, and found the following on Tail N� XV465: Serial: XV465 Code: S Type: Phantom FGR2 CN: 3261 Unit: Leeming Status: i/a First: mar94 Last: mar01 Comment Decoy Leeming You can check it out at: http://www.scramble.nl/milbase.htm

Comment from Rich Walden on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T17:47:02Z

If memory serves right, this is the castle south of Ulm/Stuttgart where the bodys of Fredrich the Great and one of the other kaisers were kept after the Second World War. There was a US Army captain and one of the royal family decendents who were the frontline of this endevour. The bodys were removed from their burial places just after the war to prevent the diehard Nazis from using them as a rallying symbol. When I was there in the late sixties/early seventies the coffins were in the small chapel just behind the wing of the plane nearest to the viewer. Quite a pull up the mountain from the valley below, helluva view when you got there.

Comment from Cricket on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T15:50:33Z

Well, that is where all the pretty castles are, although England went for stodgy and easily defended. I do remember moats and things, but not having studied them from a warrior's perspective, I never really paid much attention beyond the names for the parts. I also saw the 'Splendors of Dresden' exhibit when it came through the US either with the Tut Exhibit or right after. It was housed at the Veteran's Memorial Hall in San Francisco at Golden Gate Park. It took my parents and me TWO HOURS at a very fast walk to see everything. But the Hall of Armor was just fabulous. Inlay on weapons. Weapons and armor sized for princelings. Horses with armor and the caparisons, hand spun, sewn, embroidered, dyed with plant stuff and still stunning. Crude pistols and long rifles, and the evolution in firearm technology could be traced from 1500 onward. Took your breath away, it did.

Comment from Boquisucio on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T15:41:37Z

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Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T15:35:02Z

Stu - I identify the aircraft as RAF (Royal Air Force, Brit) F4's. I'm still with Rich for it being Hohenzollern.

Comment from Stu Clark on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T14:59:29Z

I am not sure those are German jets; does the castle have to be in Germany???

Comment from cw4billt on 2005-02-28

2005-02-28T14:06:25Z

AFSis - I'll send you a shot of Srebrenik castle to spark your dreams. Cinderella would need chain barding if she lived there, 'cuz she wouldn't be able to turn the corners (or even get into the garderobe) in full plate.

Comment from AFSister on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T04:54:10Z

Oh, FINE! Plan a vacation without me. Hmpf. I've never been to Europe, nor have I seen a real castle. I sure would like to though. oh well... maybe in my next lifetime.... The only castles in my future involve a princess named Cinderella and some wacko named John....

Comment from Boudicca on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T03:26:43Z

Forget the castles... I'm loving those airplanes!!! Heh. Thanks. I don't feel so neglected... not that I really did.. :)

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T02:50:34Z

Bad Cat is correct - Neuschwanstein is a slightly mad mans fantasy. Much like anything the Armorer would build, should he ever remember to buy a lottery ticket. As for you, Neffi - is the MTO is "Bravo, 5 rounds DPICM" - you'd better duck.

Comment from Neffi on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T02:32:53Z

err um I try not to slight the cannon-cockers John but if that's the tech term then the Helk with em! Bunch of boozin', skirt chasing goldbrickers...

Comment from Beth Donovan on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T02:31:15Z

I would love a castle tour! Only we have to walk slowly up stairs and drink a fair amount.

Comment from cw4billt on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T02:30:57Z

Bosnia's got more castles than you could shake two sticks at--all of 'em working and all of 'em worked over...

Comment from SangerM on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T01:57:07Z

One of my favorite "working" castles (by BCR def, above) is Meersburg, on Lake Constance, just a ferry ride away from Mirnau Island (itself a wonderful place to visit in the right season). Fun to walk up to, great castle, and I think oldest standing in Germany. . . The dungeon was at the bottom of the main tower, prisoners were lowered through a hole in the floor, a long way down. Links, in german, here, also to main site which has lots more "architektur" links: www.engr.psu.edu/deutschlandsarchitektur/meersburg/sonstiges/burgm.html www.engr.psu.edu/deutschlandsarchitektur/ Also, a 1929 pic of both Hohenschwangau and Neuschwanstein in view. www.jlittlewood.com/pictures/deutschland/018.jpg And if you really like Germany and environs, this is a a great link to a site that has scores of OLD B&W photos of lots of places in Germany. A very good site: www.jlittlewood.com/pictures/deutschland/pix.htm

Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T01:41:04Z

Working Castles: -do not have parking lots. They are hard to get to, on purpose. -have clear lines of fire, several lines of defense, and neat tricks to annoy any bad guys who manage to get past the first curtain wall. -usually ugly as sin -somebody, at some time, tried to batter down the gates with Intent to do Grievious Bodily Harm Neuschwanstein is pretty, but it never was used defensively.

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T00:59:28Z

Oh - and Mark, you might be confusing Hohenschwangau (which *is* the Castle across from Neuschwanstein) with Hollenzollern?

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T00:57:51Z

Mark - did you follow the links Rich provided? Zendo - thanks! Neffi - the technical term is "slighted"...

Comment from Mark Brooks on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T00:51:36Z

I don't think it is Hollenzollern Castle. That sits just across the valley from Neuschwanstein and its Yellow in cast. My son was posted with the 1st AD just north of Frankfurt for the last three years. The first year we went to see him and Germany. The next year we went to see Germany and him! Then there was that little matter of 15 months in Baghdad. That messed up my German vacation. Thank God, he came home though. So, I have no clue what castle that is!

Comment from Zendo Deb on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T00:48:19Z

http://www.intuitive.com/coolweb/entities.html Will let give you all the info on umlauts, and other neat characters like, ™ ¢ £ ¢ © etc.

Comment from Neffi on 2005-02-27

2005-02-28T00:35:11Z

..and especially, ARTY guys do castles- castles are why artillery was developed in da foist place, eh?

Comment from John of Argghhh! on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T23:58:07Z

Mike, the ever practical librarian...! Cricket - gimme a real email addy, womyn! Rich - Yer da winnah! That's got to be one of the few southern german castle's I missed in 14 years over there. Of course, the first two don't count since they were Years 1 & 2 of the Armorer's existence... Cricket - intriguing idea... old farts do Castles...

Comment from MikeTheLibrarian on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T22:50:47Z

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Comment from Cricket on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T21:56:27Z

The Middle Ages were kewl. And re enacting them even more so. splain a 'working castle.' I have really only been to a couple, as we were poor enlisted. Most of us here are retired, right? Heh. I wonder what AFRC could come up with on a MAC tour. heheh.. I have been to Adlerhof. That TRULY is breathtaking. Dunster Castle in the UK, in Somerset County, and the Hohenfest (the fortress on top of the hill overlooking Salzburg)were wonderful, and then the scruples' favorite hangout, the Kriminal Museum. I would like to go back and really look around at villas, castles, palaces, manors. I think Anne Bolyne's childhood home is just lovely. And even though I have bashed Jacque ChIraq, I wouldn't mind going through the Loire Valley. And Holyrood, where Mary Stuart lived...and Rizzio died.

Comment from Rich Willis on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T21:43:46Z

Looks like Hollenzollern Castle to me http://stronghold.heavengames.com/history/cw/cw41 http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/allcach2002?sflag=soc http://www.preussen.de/de/heute/burg_hohenzollern.html

Comment from Bad Cat Robot on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T21:02:46Z

Oooh. Castles. My friends in Europe know how to tempt me to visit. All they have to say is "castles nearby." Name-link goes to some pictures of some pretty cool ones. I like the "working" castles more than the touristy ones, although Courdes-sur-ciel manages to do a good job with both. I was quite put out that they all refuse to let me practice mangonel assaults, though. And they are out of boiling oil for the duration.

Comment from Barb on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T20:38:43Z

Cricket - that is an awesome idea. I have told my husband that one of my dream trips would be to visit "Crazy Ludwig's" castles. I'm sure there are others worth seeing, but my brother's pictures of these castles always intrigued me. He was based in Stuttgart in the early 70's (Army), and came home with tons of slides! It would be much fun to have the military historian types along to 'splain it all :-)

Comment from Cricket on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T19:30:50Z

Schloss is castle and schussel is key. Go figger. A language only the Germans could have invented. I can't do an umlaut on my keyboard. Sorry. I am looking and thanks for the links to Neuschwanstein. We oughta have a Castle get together. Tour the awesome castles of Europe. I could stay in London for a year. The Tower and Windsor as well as other places like Museums.

Comment from Rod Thorsen on 2005-02-27

2005-02-27T18:11:34Z

Kinda looks like the Slosch(spl) Von Castelle.