We're the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost. All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT, and KA 2003-2010 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html Sat, 24 Mar 2012 16:04:12 Z Movable Type 4.12 en Copyright 2012 http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification The Corner at National Review Online is buzzing with jokes about the commissioning of the USS Jimmy Carter today on the 19th. (Just scroll up and down from the link) In my duty as Jonah's Military Guy, I sent this observation: If I was selected for command of a submarine, I wouldn’t care if it was named the USS Clinton, and tied up to the sub-tender USS Lewinsky for servicing. Commands like that go to very, very few people. If I’ve got to suffer rabbit jokes, so be it. Prediction – absent mechanical problems – the USS Jimmy Carter will... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:26:06 -0600 Anthony - to be fair, the Canadians who comment here are generally members of the "Red Ensign Brigade" (blogroll over there on the right) who are Canadians who feel like you do... but still have enough Canadian-self-esteem to offer opinion and criticism. You'd be surprised at just how much like us they are in basic values - at least the members of the brigade who comment here! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-15338 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-15338 Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:57:04 -0600 The crews of the Carter will try harder to outperform their namesake's failed presidency and poor performance as "Commander-in-Chief". They will carry a "chip" on their shoulders forever. Canadian don't respond until you begin to built a fighting Armed Force instead of a bean-counting social experiment, which lacks force and is poorly armed, and poorly lead. You do your past heroes injustice. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-15337 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-15337 Sun, 20 Feb 2005 08:48:54 -0600 Yes, I do believe that's the same *Archerfish* which got *Shinano*. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14949 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14949 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:15:47 -0600 Ah, Bubblehead,I tried to post a comment on yer blog, and it didn't seem to work. Here's what I think I remember that I was trying to say: I liked it better when there was a system to naming USN ships; y'know, battleships named for states, cruisers named after cities, destroyers named after heroes, and SUBMARINES NAMED AFTER FISH!!! I remember going through USS Archerfish as a litle kid, and looking at the picture of her name-fish in her wardroom. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14946 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14946 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:06:09 -0600 Guilty! Sorry about that... since the Seawolf class boats have 8 tubes, we often talked about the feasibility of firing a "Death Blossom" (from "The Last Starfighter" -- 8 warshots, 45 degrees apart) if you ever found yourself in the middle of an enemy fleet. I was guilty of that -- running around to comment on all the sites that had Carter links, and I didn't even stop to see that you were on the side of good. My bad! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14942 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14942 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:26:18 -0600 You Canadians can suck the fun out of anything. Geez, guys, there's such a thing as 'too nice'! And besides, despite all these sailors who've been shooting then looking into the target box... I've been defending the "Fighting Peanut!" http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14913 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14913 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:47:57 -0600 I truly don't see the problem: regardless of how you feel about Carter's presidency, there's no doubt that he did well as a Submariner. If it is legitimate to name an Aircraft Carrier after Bush 41, it seems legit to name a Submarine after Jimmy Carter. naming naval vessels after living persons seems odd, but there it is. http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14912 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14912 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:44:33 -0600 Well, If Jimmy had just listened to Tim the Enchanter, he might have understood that that bunny was *dangerous*! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14908 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14908 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:49:50 -0600 Somebody needs to tell Jonah that JC was in a jonboat not a canoe and the rabbit was a "Swamp Jack". Swamp Jacks are fierce creatures even on their best days not mention they get upward of thirty pounds. They will attack you at the drop of a hat and drop the hat themselves just for sport! But they do stink to high heaven just like any other rabbit when you skin 'em out. Huh? What? Not on topic? Never mind! :-o There's a REAL nickname for the Carter; "SWAMP JACK!" yee-haw! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14907 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14907 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:25:00 -0600 Actually, disregard. I finally read your post after I commented (I had erroneously assumed it would be the same as the other posts around the blogosphere), so I'll be off visiting other sites who dare defile the fighting spirit of the Jimmy Carter! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14904 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14904 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:47:46 -0600 Jeez... you got me so flustered that I go off and double post... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14902 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14902 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:44:22 -0600 Since the Jimmy Carter was my last boat, and a Sailor always has good feelings for his last boat, I will return to defend her honor. In the meantime, just know that I would put her up against any three other submarines (except Seawolf and Connecticut)or against any surface ship fleet and the Fighting Peanut will come out on top. Semper Optima! (Going deep to re-position for better firing position.) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14901 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14901 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:42:20 -0600 Since the Jimmy Carter was my last boat, and a Sailor always has good feelings for his last boat, I will return to defend her honor. In the meantime, just know that I would put her up against any three other submarines (except Seawolf and Connecticut)or against any surface ship fleet and the Fighting Peanut will come out on top. Semper Optima! (Going deep to re-position for better firing position.) http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14900 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14900 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:42:02 -0600 served in subs - it's appropriate. ]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14885 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14885 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:42:50 -0600 odiously named "Attack" Sub here. ...and I'm flattering myself that somebody told Jonah and The Corner folks about my post and that's how it got started! LOL. All the best, Will]]> http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14880 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14880 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:01:34 -0600 You are right, John! Shifting target coordinates now... http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14844 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14844 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:18:34 -0600 I wouldn't be surprised at all if your prediction came true. But if the Clinton naming thing ever happened, I don't think the jokes would *ever* stop! http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14839 http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/2005/02/a_prediction.html#comment-14839 Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:03:09 -0600