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  <title>Comments for Serving a Nation At War.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2005-01-03T19:59:14Z</published>
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    <title>Serving a Nation At War.</title>
    <summary>The Year In Photos 2004. While the Navy serves nations in need. (and I mean that in a good way - I&apos;m just being frugal with posts) In case you wondered what could ever cause a military career to be worth the costs... watch this. It was worth it to me. There just aren&apos;t too many jobs (Fireman, Cop, Paramedic, Smoke Jumper, hell, all the First Responders) that generate memories like this. Though I would guess rafting guides and folks like that would come up with &apos;em. Maybe high steel construction work, and oil rigs and such? Anything where there...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.army.mil/yearinphotos/">The Year In Photos 2004</a></b>.</p>

<p><br />
<b><a href="http://www.hayekcenter.org/prestopunditarchive/005448.html">While the Navy serves nations in need</a></b>.  (and I mean that in a good way - I'm just being frugal with posts)</p>

<p>In case you wondered what could ever cause a military career to be worth the costs...  <b><a href="http://www.clermontyellow.accountsupport.com/flash/UntilThen.swf">watch this</a></b>.  It was worth it to me.  There just aren't too many jobs (Fireman, Cop, Paramedic, Smoke Jumper, hell, all the First Responders) that generate memories like this.  Though I would guess rafting guides and folks like that would come up with 'em.  Maybe high steel construction work, and oil rigs and such?  Anything where there is life and death trust in the group, I suppose.</p>

<p>I like my current job - but it ain't generating these kinds of memories.</p>

<blockquote>Update: from the comment below, from an email apparently not received.  We're always interested in giving credit where credit is due.
"Guys,
Don't know your level of interest here; full disclosure, other 
bloggers, mil & civvy, haven't had any.  
Like an idiot tho', I'll keep on.
This video, and a number of others, were produced/created by
http://www.gcsdistributing.com/

<p>They have allowed a number of websites to offer the videos, all in <br />
keeping their bandwidth down I'd imagine.  Check out the website, as I <br />
said, there are a number of other equally moving video presentations, <br />
including the latest on those who served in Korea.<br />
They're also requesting photos to enable them to produce more videos.<br />
Anyway, would seem to be good people going pretty much unrecognized <br />
except by their end product, for which they're not receiving any credit.<br />
Mike D."</blockquote>  </p>

<p>Thanks for the info, Mike.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from cw4billt on 2005-01-05</title>
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        Almost forgot--dang senior moments--the folks at GCS Distributing deserve a beer, too!
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    <published>2005-01-05T18:57:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.thedonovan.com,2005://1.3348-comment:11140</id>
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    <title>Comment from cw4billt on 2005-01-05</title>
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        <![CDATA[Mike: Going without credit or recognition is relative. I know--and knew--lots of guys who should have gotten a hatful of medals for valor or achievement, but didn't because it was just part of the job; in that respect, credit in the form of tangibles (attaboys and awards) is often nonexistent. What we DO get is peer recognition, and in the military, that's the only form of credit that really counts--unless your long-term goal is to troll for stars.

Example: Somebody has no qualms about walking point--or flying Lead--because he knows you'll cover his butt at the risk of your own (in Dusty's world, it means keeping the bad guys from shooting him down; in my world, it means being his ticket out <i>after</i> he gets shot down)...that's recognition at its highest.

Example: Somebody else has a mission and comes to you because you've done the same thing he's about to do--and the shit hit the fan big time, but you brought everybody back--and he wants the "how-to" without the war story...that's credit you don't have to buy a shadowbox for.

Don't get me wrong--not all heroes are unsung. Audie Murphy, Francis Gabreski, James Stockdale...sometimes things work the way they're supposed to and sometimes the only folks who appreciate what you've done are the ones who share your tent.

And sometimes it really is just part of the job. 

But if you still feel hacked that our folks aren't being properly recognized for the job they're doing (God bless ya for that, by the way), launch a letter to Any Soldier (or Marine, or Airman, or Coastie, or--oh, the pain!--Sailor) and adopt the recipient for the duration of his (or her) deployment.

Then buy him (okay--or her) a beer... =] 

Bill T

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    <title>Comment from Mike Daley on 2005-01-04</title>
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        <![CDATA[Email seemed not to interest, so, for the readers of tomorrow, will copy here. 
Regarding the great video referred to, "Until Then".
Mike 

Guys,
Don't know your level of interest here; full disclosure, other bloggers, mil & civvy, haven't had any.  
Like an idiot tho', I'll keep on.
This video, and a number of others, were produced/created by
<a href="http://www.gcsdistributing.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gcsdistributing.com/</a>

They have allowed a number of websites to offer the videos, all in keeping their bandwidth down I'd imagine.  Check out the website, as I said, there are a number of other equally moving video presentations, including the latest on those who served in Korea.
They're also requesting photos to enable them to produce more videos.
Anyway, would seem to be good people going pretty much unrecognized except by their end product, for which they're not receiving any credit.
Mike Daley]]>
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