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  <title>Comments for Tommy</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <published>2004-12-24T14:52:56Z</published>
    <updated>2006-11-11T16:52:42Z</updated>
    <title>Tommy</title>
    <summary>I&apos;ve said the same thing about the newest members of the US services - they have proven themselves every bit as brave and capable as their forbears, even as we elders wondered if this generation had any mettle - and they&apos;ve shown us their metal. So too, in Great Britain. Such as Corporal Mark Byles and his fellow soldiers. I slashed people, rifle-butted them. I was punching and kicking. It was either me or them. I got back to camp covered in blood from head to toe. The first thing I did was pull out a photo of my family...</summary>
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      <name>The Armorer</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I've said the same thing about the newest members of the US services - they have proven themselves every bit as brave and capable as their forbears, even as we elders wondered if this generation had any mettle - and they've shown us their metal.</p>

<p>So too, in Great Britain.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.fototime.com/590DD9CE5DF60C7/standard.jpg" width=500 height= 375 border=0></p>

<p>Such as <b><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14954555&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=cold-steel-name_page.html">Corporal Mark Byles</a></b> and his fellow soldiers.</p>

<blockquote> I slashed people, rifle-butted them. I was punching and kicking. It was either me or them. I got back to camp covered in blood from head to toe. The first thing I did was pull out a photo of my family</blockquote>

<p>A fact that has not gone un-noticed elsewhere.</p>

<blockquote>There is a temptation to be rather gloomy about contemporary society in general and youth in particular. Many adults are guilty of assuming that youngsters spend all their time hanging about on street corners wearing hooded tops, punctuated only by spells slouched in front of the television. But the performance of the Army in Iraq goes to show that today's young people are just as capable as previous generations were of exhibiting the timeless military virtues: discipline, service, stoicism and, of course, that mischievous mixture of respect for authority and insolence that can be so entertaining in adversity. Even the Defence Secretary, Geoff Hoon, must have chuckled to himself when presented with a group photo in which he should have featured, after being late to a dinner at a sergeants' mess.</blockquote>

<p>So, while I take exception to this characterization, "pound for pound and man for man, the British Army is still more efficient than the mighty US army" and snark that even if true (a premise I don't accept) efficient does not equal capable...  you should read the rest of this <b><a href="http://opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/12/24/dl2402.xml">little bit from the Telegraph</a></b>.</p>

<p>Hat tip to CAPT H and Mr. Wilkinson.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Casey Tompkins on 2004-12-25</title>
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        <name>Casey Tompkins</name>
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        Well, we Yanks do leave an awfully messy battlefield.

Heh...

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    <published>2004-12-25T06:05:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RC on 2004-12-24</title>
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        We can let them have their little fantasies.  After all, God willing, it&apos;ll never be proven again whether US GI&apos;s can beat Brit GI&apos;s.  They are &quot;good sorts&quot; and long time and deeply held friends, no matter what politics and politicians do to try and split us up.
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    <published>2004-12-24T17:35:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cw4billt on 2004-12-24</title>
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        <![CDATA["...pound for pound..." Well, no qualms there, since <i><b>we</b></i> use dollars...

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    <published>2004-12-24T15:20:23Z</published>
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