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  <title>Comments for More on Combat Art.</title>
  <subtitle>We&apos;re the Military and Airpower Guys of Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online + a stray we found wandering around looking lost.  All original material JHD, BHD, JR, WT,  and KA 2003-2010</subtitle>
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    <title>More on Combat Art.</title>
    <summary>...who knew we military types were so artsy? Resident Rotorhead Bill T chimed in with a comment on my art post below. I decided his point was worth bringing up here, to introduce you guys who may not be that familiar with war art. Bill said: Here comes my two cents-worth: 1. For black-and-white, you can&apos;t beat Donald Dickson&apos;s stark pencil sketches of the Marines on Guadalcanal (&quot;Killer&quot; is one of his best); 2. For color work, it&apos;s Kerr Eby&apos;s stuff (never seen anything quite as horrific--on paper--as &quot;The Wound&quot;). But wait--there&apos;s more! 3. For cartoons, Bill Mauldin--nobody else (including...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>...who knew we military types were so artsy?  Resident Rotorhead Bill T chimed in with a comment on my art post below.  I decided his point was worth bringing up here, to introduce you guys who may not be that familiar with war art.</p>

<p>Bill said:</p>

<blockquote>Here comes my two cents-worth:

<p>1. For black-and-white, you can't beat Donald Dickson's stark pencil <br />
sketches of the <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/037.html">Marines on Guadalcanal</a></b> ("Killer" is one of his best);</p>

<p>2. For color work, it's <a href="http://www.history.navy.mil/ac/artist/e/eby/eby1.htm"><b>Kerr Eby's</b></a> stuff (never seen anything quite as <br />
horrific--on paper--as "The Wound").</p>

<p><i>But wait--there's more!</i></p>

<p>3. For cartoons, <b><a href="http://darbysrangers.tripod.com/id36.htm"><b>Bill Mauldin</b></a></b>--nobody else (including me) even comes close...</blockquote></p>

<p>If you are ever in the Oklahoma City area, I strongly recommend a visit to the <a href="http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/"><b>45th Infantry Division Museum</b></a> - one of the <a href="http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/Exhibits/Mauldin.html"><b>official archives of Mauldin's cartoons</b> </a>and an excellent museum in it's own right.</p>

<p>Now - I'm just guessing here - but I'm willing to bet a Castle Argghhh! coffee mug that Bill really meant Tom Lea's painting - <i>The Price</i>.</p>

<center><img src="http://www.fototime.com/94B19A8F07CBC2E/standard.jpg" border=0></center>

<p>Regardless, there were a lot of simply astounding pieces of art generated by artists who accompanied the troops into the danger zone, the fields where the Iron Crosses grow, as the Germans put it.  And not all that art is of the 'realism' school that I tend to favor, but is more impressionistic - such as this painting by Theo Hios, called <i>Ambush at Saipan</i>.</p>

<center> <img src="http://www.fototime.com/E5AA3B99289B95C/standard.jpg" border=0></center>

<p>These guys and gals covered <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/041.html">the sad</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/011.html">the funny</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/108.html">the mundane</a></b>, the <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/067.html">down time</a></b>, <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/105.html">the horror</a></b>, and <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/042.html">the awesome</a></b>... as in the original meaning of the word, as opposed to the devalued usage of today.  And <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/gallery/small/023.html">the cost</a></b>.</p>

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PBS has an excellent website on the subject: <b><a href="http://www.pbs.org/theydrewfire/resources/artists.html">They Drew Fire</a></b>.  It has a lot of this type of art available on it, and chronicles the programs and artists involved.  Many of the art has accompanying commentary by the artist, as well.</p>

<p>Oh, yeah - Bill, are you a cartoonist?  Got proof(s)?<br />
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    <title>Comment from cw4billt on 2004-12-14</title>
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        <![CDATA[John:

Right again--gee, what a surprise. I'd had Eby on the mind because my neighbor's Gamer kid asked me about amphibs and I loaned him my copy of <b>WWII</b> (which I haven't perused in years) last week.

My cartoons are on display in offices at all three NG Aviation Training Sites, three or four of the "schoolhouses" at Ft. Rucker, on a bunch of my friends' walls (if they haven't been sold for beer money), on a couple dozen Aviation Safety Non-Awards handed out over the years, and I think I've still got one of my old RVN unit Christmas cards (PG-17: Language) stashed somewhere...

IOU one each official Castle Argghhh! caffeine container...is styrofoam okay? =]
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    <title>Comment from The Commissar on 2004-12-14</title>
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        One of my favorite military paintings was a scene from the Franco-Prussian war, a cavalryman sitting by a house, if I recall correctly. I think the artist&apos;s last name began with an M; he was French.

Any ideas?
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