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Basic Marksmanship Training

All I can say is... about time, and still not enough.

Spc. Eliamar Casta–Staff Sgt. Carlos Osorio, drill sergeant with D Company, 1st Battalion, 38th Infantry Regiment, center, checks the sights of Pvt. Michael Cooper's weapon before he qualified Wednesday.

I've never been impressed with Army marksmanship training - and it was really frustrating as a battery-level commander in an artillery unit trying to get my people qualified to what I considered an acceptable level. The system got in the way, from STRAC allocations of ammo, to getting range time, and when I commanded a Headquarters Battery, staff grumpiness about people.

Don't even get me started on keeping the officers competent. And boy, did egos get in the way there! They were all convinced they could shoot, so it was always the weapon at fault.

Perhaps one reason I didn't retire a general officer is that I would take their weapon, shoot Expert with it, and give it back, agreeing with them that it *must* be the weapon, not the hands that held it. And kept a straight face. I really liked the ones who wanted to argue bullet variability in military ammo lots.

C'mon, ladies and gents, we're shooting at man sized targets, a hit is a hit, no one is measuring minutes of angle to determine who outshot who. We're just trying to drop the target or punch a hole somewhere inside the paper silhouette. No more.

Anyway - we're trying. I'll leave it to the Heartless Libertarian (who's got a good post on adaptation), who commands a basic training company, to offer any insights he might have should he wander by.

Keep in mind fellas - this is Fort Benning - the Home of the Infantry we're talking about.

New program of instruction changes Basic Combat Training Brigade

Story and photo by Spc. Eliamar Castañon/The Bayonet

FORT BENNING, Ga. (TRADOC News Service, Dec. 17, 2004) – The U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command has changed the program of instruction for initial-entry training by incorporating the M-16 into all parts of training and using the Engagement Skills Trainer 2000 to enhance marksmanship techniques learned on ranges.

Originally, Soldiers in IET received instruction on the M-16 during the basic rifle marksmanship phase of training. The new POI has Soldiers being issued an M-16 and a magazine with five blank rounds of ammunition one week into training.

“The idea is for Soldiers to become more familiar with their weapon and are comfortable using it,” said Capt. Cecil Henry, commander of D Company, 1st Battalion, 38th Infantry Regiment.

The EST 2000 is an emerging training simulator using virtual reality to project a variety of scenario possibilities and allows for immediate feedback of shooting techniques without ever having to go to the field.

Henry said an EST 2000 will be brought to Sand Hill in January 2005 for the Basic Combat Training Brigade, and Soldiers will use the simulator at least three days in conjunction with time spent at the range.

D Company is not the only cycle of basic-training Soldiers that has converted to the new POI. Three other cycles have completed basic, and the feedback from the commanders was positive, said Capt. Alina Martinez, BCTB adjutant.

“The BRM scores for the Soldiers who carried the weapons the entire time in basic improved immensely,” Martinez said. “The first-time go’s for the different companies have improved immensely.”

Henry agreed with Martinez and said 91 percent of his Soldiers received first-time go’s on the practice range for their BRM qualifications.

Pfc. Matthew Bacon, with 3rd Platoon, guaranteed an expert score shooting at the range.

“I’ve been shooting rifles for more than 20 years now, but never an M-16,” Bacon said. “Having it with me all the time really makes me more comfortable now that I’m firing it.”

Bacon and other Soldiers in his company said they carry their weapon everywhere and sleep with it hanging on a rack next to their bunk.

“We have it with us at all times, even when we sleep,” said Pvt. Joshua Cronk. “It doesn’t matter what your MOS is, you have to be familiar with your weapon because you never know when you’ll have to use it. You have to be prepared for anything at all times.”

Pvt. James Tolman said they all received instruction on how to properly carry an M-16 the first weekend they were in training.

“I can take it apart and put it back together in two to three minutes,” Tolman said.

He also expected to get an expert shooting score to beat his brother, Samuel Tolman, who is currently in one-station unit training.


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Looks like we're finally getting back to where we were in, oh, say, 1972--before VOLAR, before mixed-gender BCT, and before the PC gurus decided it was absolutely unacceptable to expect poor, impressionable youngsters to remain in close proximity to something so horrible as a personal weapon. Having a succession of moonbats occupying High Ground didn't help much, either...
 
It is good to hear that soldier's are sleeping with their best friend once again. However, that picture is of one of the stupidest thing I have ever seen. YOU DON'T LOOK DOWN THE BARREL!! I teach 4-H youth how to shoot and would use this picture as an example of what NOT TO DO. Cheers
 
On the day I was to sign in to PLDC, I had to go to the dispensary to get pinch-tested (always room to spare, but I always had to get pinched). The NCO Academy (headed in those days by the great CSM Richard Kidd) would not let me check my weapon into the arms room until I got approved. I went to the dispensary and was promptly escorted to the door by some irate female major nurse-type who berated me loudly about bringing my weapon into the dispensary, and how we DON'T DO THAT! She insisted I leave it with some U/I private who happened to be standing outside having a smoke. Guess what my response to that was. Anyway, I ended up having to go back to the NCO academy so someone there could arrange for me to go back to the dispensary to get pinched, because I still couldn't check my rifle into the arms room there. Suffice to say, I finally went into the dispensary WITH my weapon, and the idiot nurse and I just glared at each other as I walked by her. What should have taken 20 minutes took several hours, and to this day, I don't get the logic of that. Now when people ask me why I left the Army after 14 years, depending on my mood, I always tell them either 1) the Army didn't trust us with guns and bullets, or 2) I hated having to take off my shirt so I could roll up my sleeves. Most non-military people don't get it, but that's ok. Those who know, know. -SangerM
 
As previous comments have pointed out, the best way to ensure familiarity with one's personal weapon is to live with it night and day for an extended period. Its been near 30 years since I wore green and I'll lay odds I can still strip, assemble, do IA's and stoppages blindfolded.
 
Mike - looks to me like the Drill is checking the rear sight, not looking down the muzzle. The soldier's left hand is holding the handguard, with the barrel continuing on down towards the ground. Or are you referring to the photographer's position?
 
I think what Mike's confusing two rifles that are superimposed. One is what the Drill's checking (with the barrel pointed somewhere in front of the photographer's feet, the other is held by another soldier further back with the butt on the ground. Weapons training can't get much crappier than Air Force basic. One afternoon in a classroom learning which end is which, using rifles with carbon literally falling out of the magazine well when a magazine was removed. Then a morning at the range firing 50 shots with rifles fitted with .22 LR adapters. I experienced "only" 8 misfires -- a couple guys had over 20. Disgust only _begins_ to describe the feelings...
 
How low has our Republic fallen! I recall reading a book printed yrs and yrs ago, long since purged (uh, I mean "weeded") from our local public library. In it, the author expressed his belief that you could count on yer average young American male to hit anything within 20 yards with a shotgun, with his eyes shut. Of course that doesn't apply to rifle shooting, and this guy said he never heard of game wardens until quite mature, and it was an OLD book when I first saw it. Still and all, I do think that all citizens of any republic should have to qualify at the range every year (among other duties), or not be allowed to vote. I believe the Swiss still insist upon this. Hey, ya gotta a love a weird little country with more shootin' ranges than golf courses!
 
Field strip and reassemble in 2-3 minutes? Oh my achin' back. I think all my DI's are spinning in their graves, and they aren't even dead yet.
 
I'll have more complete commentary later, but the gist of it is that they're talking about two different and distantly related things: the introduction of the EST 2000 (which rocks) to replace the Weaponeer (state of the early 70s tech)in marksmanship training and what we here at Ft Jackson call "weapons immersion" which has little to do with marksmanship and more to do with reducing the number of Negligent Discharges (NDs) among troops in theater.
 
That's why I pinged you!
   
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