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Wahabism Delenda Est.

I will take this time to thank Al-Qaeda.

For snapping me out of most of my funk.

What follows is, for me, a rant. You want more subtlety, nuance, and no ugly pictures, go read Michele. We both reach the same conclusion, however.

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Wahabism Delenda Est.

DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's leader in Iraq beheaded an American civilian and vowed more killings in revenge for the "Satanic degradation" of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, an Islamist Web site said on Tuesday.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

Us, on a bad day.

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Them, apparently on what they see as a good day.

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Nick Berg is not the first. He won't be the last.

Contrary to the videotaped boasts of his killers, the gruesome beheading of 26-year-old Nicholas Berg had nothing to do with the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and everything to do with the barbaric, pathologically anti-Western nature of militant Islam...

...And what about the countless beheadings perpetrated by the al-Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf group on non-Muslims over the past several years in the Philippines? The murders of American citizens Guillermo Sobrero (who was beheaded) and Martin Burnham in 2001 and 2002, respectively, by Abu Sayyaf guerillas were committed well before the U.S. invasion of Iraq last March.

There are also the scores of maimings and dismemberments — many of which are readily accessible for Internet viewing — that have been administered by Chechen Islamists on Russian troops in the course of their ongoing battles during the past decade. A good number of these atrocities took place when Abu Ghraib was still supervised by Saddam Hussein's Baathists (who, judging by recent media accounts, must have run a sandy social club compared to the hellhole overseen by the ruthless Americans).

Erick Stackelbeck, National Review Online.


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Mr. President - when are you going to ask us to do this?

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These people, the leaders, just need killin'.

"Civilize 'em with a Krag."

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Let's help make the fertile crescent fertile again. Make Wahabists fertilizer.

Not Muslims. Not Sh'ia, or Sunni - just the Wahabist strain.

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Root and branch.

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Twig and leaf.

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This isn't hate. It isn't a call to genocide. It isn't a call to convert to another religion. It is, however, a call to extirpate the cancer of Wahabism. Just as the Christian church tamed the Inquisition, so too should the Muslim world tame Wahabism.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

Berg's murder plainly illustrates the most salient distinction between the Coalition and the terrorists. The outrages at Abu Ghraib were not sanctioned by higher authorities, and were halted when they were discovered. An investigation followed, and those who committed the acts may be facing jail time — a court will determine that. The terrorists on the other hand killed Nicholas Berg while executing their official policy. They justified the ritualistic slaughter of an innocent man as an act of revenge. We consider the humiliation of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib shocking; the terrorists consider sawing off the head of a helpless, innocent man an act that bestows glory unto their god and their people.
James Robbins, National Review Online.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

And if they won't, let's do it for them. It's what they intend to do to us. Convert us, or kill us. Fuck 'em. I ain't signing up for that.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

Forgiveness is God's job. Let's arrange the meeting.

Wahabism Delenda Est.


Sorry, Boudicca. It's just something I had to say.

Sorry, Jack. I think this one will make you sad and unhappy.

Wahabism Delenda Est - modfied from Cato's "Carthago Delenda Est."

Carthage must be destroyed. And Rome did so. And Carthage never bothered Rome again.

We don't need to go the level of killing all the men, and selling the women and children into slavery part. Nor do we go to the "leave no stone on top of another", plow it under, and sow it with salt.

Wahabism isn't a place. It's a concept. And even if you think that capitalism and free markets and western civilization in general is just one step removed from the most horrible thing on earth - Wahabism is arguably that one step further. And, like Nazism, and Stalinism, and Leninism, just needs to go away.

And making the leaders fertilizer is a good start. We didn't have to kill every Nazi, we won't have to kill every Wahabist. But we will have to kill the right ones. And that's going to mean taking out other people who chose to put themselves in the way. And losing some of our own.

But this isn't going to go away until we surrender or Wahabism is dead.

Yes, Virginia, it *is* a war of cultures.

Rome was sacked by the barbarians. These barbarians want to sack us.

Fuck 'em. Make 'em fertilizer. They aren't interested in reason. And, like the barbarians who eventually sacked Rome, they aren't going to be satisfied with tribute and appeasement.

Which is the Kerry solution, however else he chooses to express it. Which is the European solution.

Wahabism Delenda Est.

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48 Comments

Oh my God, John - the picture is so awful. Need warning! You are completely right. Totally. without a doubt.
 
No. No warning. It's a war. Adapt or die. It's time to face it for what it is. The fight for the future. War to the knife. Victory, or societal death. That's how they see it. We need to accomodate that view. Wahabism Delenda Est.
 
John... DO NOT apologize to me. I am in agreement with you, regardless if this is a popular opinion or not. All gloves are off as far as I'm concerned. However, I think I am glad that pix still don't download from your blog... based on Beth's reaction. You blog. I read. No apologies.
 
I with you all the way John. Make 'em fertilizer and get some trees growing in that wasteland. The more trees the better.
 
I disagree only in that we do need to leave no stone on another, we DO need to salt the fields, and rather than sell women and children into slavery, we make them compost too. Anything remotely related to Wahabism, or its Baathist cousin, or its Hamas wife, or its Hezbolla daughter. It is time to make pyramids of skulls with turbans, as warning to future generations.
 
Sorry, Chris. I won't buy into that. There are distinctions to be made. We helped the Germans remake Germany. The Germans had to want to do it. We helped the Japanese remake Japan. The Japanese had to want to do it. We can help the Iraqi's remake Iraq, if they want to do it. Apparently, to do that, we need to utteryly destroy the heart of Wahabism. But we don't need to kill everyone. I won't sign up for that. Wahabism Delenda Est!
 
I keep telling myself that the "kill 'em all" mentality is wrong. Then that ugly image of Nick Berg's head pops up in my head again and I think, no it isn't. Controlling my rage right now is a lost cause. I'm just waiting for it to change from white hot to icy cold so that I can think more clearly.
 
Smoke 'em all, says I! While I generally tend to shy away from book burnings and such, I'd bring the fuckin' weaners and marshmallows to this one! We cannot win a war in which we only take out a military. During WW1 and WW2, we smoked not only the German and Japanese militaries, but it was the use of city-wide bombings that broke the will of the people to resist. I say that if the Iraqis are too fucking weak-willed and stupid and lazy to get rid of this so-called 'minority' of psychotic turbine thumpers (I clearly don't believe this is a minority...if it were only Wahabism, where then is the outrage over the beheading from the rest of the Muslim community, that greatest of all abominable churches, Satan's own bitch that is Islam...) we pull our troops out of the cities of Iraq and resume the bombing until we either kill all of the Wahabists, or all of the Iraqis. One of the two. We should publicize our intent as well. The world should know that if you bomb us, murder one of our citizens, or kidnap one of our workers, that there will be a high price to pay indeed. Death should come swiftly and violently to those who trifle and fuck with us...those who who foolishly choose to test our will. God help us all if John F'ing Kerry gets elected. J-Chu
 
Thank you. My sentiments exactly.
 
John, if *I* am the "Jack" you are saying, "Sorry, Jack. I think this one will make you sad and unhappy." to, then you would be mistaken (happily in this case). I agree completely with "Wahabism Delenda Est". What I do NOT agree with is "Islam Delenda Est", and what I do NOT agree with is all the apologists and moral relativists I have read saying "well, our abuse was nothing compared to their atrocities", which while factually correct is morally WRONG. I'm putting "Wahabism Delenda Est" on my blog template, because I *do* agree with that.
 
At least Kerry, witless as he is, has not made a gibbering apology to the 'king'(!) of ANOTHER COUNTRY(besides the one where the 'offense' occured) or in a newspaper in ANOTHER COUNTRY as 'AWOL in Alabama' has.But don't worry-I'm sure by the end of 2005 he'll make several just as idiotic moves. Such a choice: Skull'nBones1 v. Skull'nBones2. As a famous cracker said 36 years back: "There ain't a dimes worth a difference between the Demopublican and Republicrat parties." Down to two cents now. 'Wahhabism' is too nice and too indirect-it should be called 'ragheadism' to make the point very clear. And first it needs to be expelled from any Western country-to make clear that ultimately every member of this alleged 'faith' is responsible for what grows in its foul and clotted bowls. March on Dearborn, Houston, wherever the wretched spew of the blowhard 'Muhammed' can be heard, and either put them in camps or, most appropriately, expel them to lands where their drivel is the norm-there they can fight to civilize their culture, or die respectably trying to do so.And yes, doddering old Cassius Clay and the rest of the propaganda pieces go too. In any case their leeching on Western civilization and its' accomplishments, and in particular using those accomplishments to strangle it, ends now.
 
Why aren't we hearing "mainstream" Islam denounce these acts? Because they've conjured up Satan and now expect him to play nice? They are scared shitless that Wahhabism will win and then they're fucked too if they show any signs of weakness. Do I really believe any of that? No. As President Reagan said " The bombing begins in five minutes."
 
Why aren't we hearing "mainstream" Islam denounce these acts? Because they've conjured up Satan and now expect him to play nice? They are scared shitless that Wahhabism will win and then they're fucked too if they show any signs of weakness. Do I really believe any of that? No. As President Reagan said " The bombing begins in five minutes."
 
Why aren't we hearing "mainstream" Islam denounce these acts? Because they've conjured up Satan and now expect him to play nice? They are scared shitless that Wahhabism will win and then they're fucked too if they show any signs of weakness. Do I really believe any of that? No. As President Reagan said " The bombing begins in five minutes."
 
Sorry about the multiple posts, like my three year old said: "Daddy, you're a dork."
 
Don't feel bad, Bob - while for a moment I thought I had a good comment thread going... It ain't neccessarily your fault. Response from my blog ISP host is sometimes slow. You aren't the first, and won't be the last!
 
I am with you. Wahabism Delenda Est. Show no quarter.
 
You all might want to look into the history of the Seljuk Sunni's and their struggle with the Nizari Ishamili sect in the period from 950 to about 1250. The Nizaris are better know to most of you as the Assasins, and while there was undoubtedly a lot of bad propaganda put out about them, it seems mostly to have been well deserved. The Seljuk's and others had to deal with them by killing a lot of them, but only when the Mongols over ran the place did the s**t really hit the fan. Most of that group were killed off and many of their fortresses were destroyed. Personally, I think we should do the service to modern Islam that the Mongols did. Except I don't think we need to go so far as stay in the Middle East when we are done and convert.
 
Saw picture. I want blood! My hands are shaking with rage. I can't tell you how many times I had to re-read this post to get the typos corrected. And have we heard a major outcry from anyone other than ourselves? Lie to me...please tell me the answer is YES!
 
I'm sure King Abdullah and Pres. Mubarak will be apoligizing to The people of the U.S. very soon. /sarcasm
 
We aren’t hearing mainstream Islam in Iraq because we never hear mainstream Islam in Iraq. I’m not sure how organized they are. Our Media has not done the Iraqi people any favors. The only thing they ever show is angry Iraqi men, chanting, and screaming for revenge or Death to America. Iraq is a bigger country than that. They don’t go out and about and talk to the average people, although maybe they are and I’m just not hearing about it. Working with the assumption they are not, what does that portray to us? It portrays that everyone over there is a fundamentalist extremist. Kind of racist isn’t it? Do I believe they’re all like that? Nope. Not any more than I believe that ALL Americans are out publicly protesting this war, something that gets an amazing amount of coverage in our media. I believe that the average Islamic Iraqi is tired of what they have been dealing with for so long and are feeling incredibly beaten down and I think they fear a fundamentalist regime. For that reason, I don’t think the whole place needs to be turned to glass. The Wahabists need to be eradicated. Unfortunately we are dealing with a population that is wholly uneducated and poor. They are literally centuries behind us. This is going to be a tough haul.
 
For those who are wondering what might be the thoughts of Iraqis: http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/ http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/ http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/ Not all of them are centuries behind us ... Cheers JMH
 
I don't know much about what you guys believe or what your political views are. I have a doctorate in History and as a Matter of History, the last time we were faced with suicidal warriors who didn't know when to quit, we found the solution, it only took two cities for them to surrender... Enola Gay I think was the plane. oh well, that's how mad these images make me. Mark Rosson
 
Mmmm, sorry JMH, it was not meant to imply that all of them were so far behind us, but the way I worded it did. The tyranny has been such, however, that probably most are. Also, in hindsight, centuries was perhaps the wrong choice... decades probably fits better. I will check the links you supplied... always looking for good data.
 
It's been an interesting day for me. I agree with my spouse completely. Not long afterward, the Arab guy I've been training all week asked me to come to his home for dinner with his family. They live in Dearborn Heights, I'm working in Dearborn this week. Faud and his wife treated me like a queen. We ate and laughed and played with their children. His wife wears the head scarf, with blue jeans and a sweatshirt. All the children are tri-lingual - Spanish (she was born in South America) English and Arabic. They are obviously strict observers of Islam, but they treated me, and infidel (to them) with the utmost of friendship and kindness. I had a great time. When they are in my part of the country, I have invited them to come ride my horses with me. The point is - there are many good people who are Muslim. Just like there are many good people of all faiths. The actions of the Wahabi Muslems do not reflect the beliefs of all of Muslims. My new friends watch American tv - their kids play with Nintendo, Play Station and X-Box. Personally, I don't care for how Islam looks at women. But I'm Catholic, and many non-Catholics feel the same way about my faith. You just can't judge all Muslims be the actions of the Wahabi animals. So, please don't say evil things about my friends in Dearborn, ok?
 
Beth, I will say evil thing about all muslims, especially the ones living here and enjoying the freedoms that they could never dream of in their homeland. I will keep on saying them till I hear them rise up and condemn the actions of these brainless idiots who are so brave in attacking an unarmed man that they must hide their faces behind their dishtowels. I believe freedom of speech does not prevent them from calling this what it is, murder. Are there good muslims in the world? I am sure of it, in fact I too have some muslim friends, but they are very conspicuous by their silence right now.
 
Please see my post on The High Road (www.thehighroad.org) on the topic "Nuke All Muslims." It turns out that the geek who maintains the server is a Moslem, and a nice guy. The thread was started by a fellow who goes by the nick "Lawdog", a deputy sheriff in Texas. No, he doesn't want to nuke all Muslims. My nickname at The High Road is Orthonym. What I said in my post, basically, is that one should compare the cheerfull, happy faces on Queen Noor's (nee Lisa Halaby) web site with the sourpuss images of the wahabis. Our gal Lisa is the widow of the late King Hussein, a descendent of the prophet. The wahhabis are descendents of a bandit chieftain and his tame imam.
 
Oops! Sorry! It's late, I've drunk too much, I meant for that other comment of mine to show up here. (Concerning American Hashemite Widows and evil Wahabis) Please look at the "Nuke All Muslims" thread on www.thehighroad.org. I'm Orthonym there.
 
The virulent ideology of Wahhabism has spread all over the world, so you can't destroy it completely with a couple of nukes like like Ftboy and LIttle Man destroyed Japan's will to fight. But Whaabism has spread so prolifically because of the monetary support of one single group of people, in one country. Actually, they rule the country. I'm talking about the House of Saud. The Saudi royals have supported the Wahhabist assholes for years basically to buy them off from causing trouble on the homefront. A couple of Tomahawk missiles with W-80 warheads turning Riyadh into a smoking hole in the ground would be a great start.
 
Maranna, The world community is good. People really care. There's been a tremendous outcry, not just from America but from all over. The UN is the voice of those good people all over the world, and it's going to help, soon, practically, and in a big way. NATO is reviving, and it's got its stomping boots on. The biggest thing is: all that stuff we grew up with, the stern, moral righteousness of the religion of the Prophet, the way Muslims have their funny ethnic ways but you can count on them when a moral line has to be drawn - that all turns out to be true! The terrorists have gone too far this time, and they're going to be hunted down for the rest of their short lives by hard-core Muslims, who won't tolerate evil being done in the name of Allah! "And have we heard a major outcry from anyone other than ourselves? Lie to me...please tell me the answer is YES!" Did I do good?
 
41 seconds ----- yes it took41 seconds for barbaric murders to behead this American with a knife to his throat (dull knife).my heart goes out to the famiily for the tortuous way their son and brother died.
 
This Brutal Murder Of Nick Burg Saddens me... It Hurt to Watch and Listen to his shrieks and Yelps...It makes me want to go over there and Find those Ass Holes And Personaly Dice them up into Little Pieces...Before this Footage I was against this war But after watching this Iam Fully supporting Our US troops...And so what they made A Pyramid of Iraqis Nude...Id Be pretty Fuckin Bored Working in a Prison Full Of Ass Holes That Killed Numerous Of Our People Not Finding Any Thing to Do...Humane...Is Killing Your Own People and Children Humane(Suicide Bombings) OHH But thats Justified...BullShit... Killin in the Name Of? Listen To Some Rage Against The Machine...This Is all Horse Shit... BLOW THE MOTHER FUCKERS UP BEFORE THEY FUCK US OVER AGAIN AND CRASH SOME PLANES INTO OUR SCHOOLS HOW MUCH RADIATION IS ON THE INTEL CHIPS IN OUR CPU"S THAT HAVE BEEN SENT OVER FROM IRAQ? HOWS OUR WATER SUPPLY? HOWS OUR AIR SUPPLY? HOWS OUR TABACCO? ANYONE BEEN GETTING MORE SICK THAN USUAL THIS YEAR? THINK ABOUT IT.
 
Would It be Too Much to ask to Drop off All the Guys on Death Row if they Sign a Waiver Give Um a Gun Show um the Tape of Nick Burg And Drop um off in the Middle east...Train them Teach them Gettem over there and Let Our Murderers Go to work Against There Murderers The US Prison Photos Didnt Show a Decapitation I dont think....Meerly Some angry People Acting out...I Wish the Us Would Put Our Murderers Against Theirs Thats One Thing About US FUNDS...PRISONS OR MILITARY IS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING SO LETS COMBIND THE TOO. THE SENTENCE IS MILITARY SERVICE>>>>>>>
 
What was done to berg was uncall for & same goes to the incidents in the prison in Iraq. Both incidents are conducted by people with little sense of moral, humanity and values. The world is full of hatered and these actions by stupid sellfish people will only make matter worse. Eventually this incidents with many more to come or untold of will only fan the fire of a FULL out WAR between the West against the Middle East or with fear I say it between West & Muslims. Let's try peace...the West who are far more educated & forward thinking should be able to deal with the issues on hand in more civilize manner and lead these people up rather than going down to their level & creating a mess of it. Mistakes has been made in Vietnam, Korea, Afghan but do they change their ways of dealing with the situation. No. Same principals & method was adopted in the name of democracy. Is it really for democracy or self ego of what the West says & do is correct & must be followed in the West intrest or else you shall be branded as a terrorist, maxist, communist or just plain idiots. Some may not share my concerns but as a Muslim, I do fear for the future of all humanity of the world regardless or race, religion or nation. Our world is getting smaller, thus like animals we are all fighting for more space. We may be leaving in the 21st Century but our behaviour is that of the time when apes walk the earth. Look around yourselve and ask this question, do I know neighbour? do I really know him/her? do I care? do I need to be fuck in the face before I care to act on it? why are we here? what are our purpose in this short stop in a place call earth? does god put us here to fuck each other up? does he enjoy this shit we are facing? is there god in the 1st place? Regards Ahmad Fiazil (Pray for Peace, Act for Peace)
 
you american freaks... you need to understand that violence and the war that you are so proud of isnt the right way... but i bet that that'll take a long long time... especially if the propaganda tactics of your president works so well... free your mind... get real... dont answer terrorism with terrorism... peace... The Armorer adds: Dude - your message seems lost on the Palestinians, and al-Qaeda, and their whole ilk. And your pacifism is paid for with other people's blood and treasure. You may like a prayer rug. I don't. You exist as you do in Amsterdam (or wherever) because of the blood shed to release you from the Nazis, and to keep the Soviets on their side of the line. Your way is the way of societal death. Feh.
 
Wahabists should all die. Every single one of them. What do we have a nuclear arsenal for if it's not for killing every single wahabist waste of space?
 
Well said. There is no "live and let live" with these bastards. We've tried. The very bedrock of their religion is to convert or kill any non muslims. Believe me, I am no Bush supporter or right wing christian wacko. But I know that they absolutely will not stop until we are dead. They need to be exterminated.
 
make baghdad a glass parking lot,then mecca followed by medina and on and on....
 
i got three words for ya: "KILL! KILL! KILL!" the more killing the better... i'm of the eye 4 an eye school of thought. or a.. "destroy-a-whole-country-for-the-acts-of-a-few-of-our-radicals-that-are-part-of-our-middle-eastern-version-of-the-KKK" for an "eye" thank god us americans are too stupid & lazy to go to other countries and act out acts of terrorism, or we might have someone try to come liberate us.. heh heh. one question... have more americans died at the hands of "american terrorists" or "iraqi terrorists" ??? that question & line of thought will be way too deep for most of your beer numbed, testosterone charged pea-brains but if you can handle the math, start adding it up with oklahoma city and maybe i'll clue you into some of the other events later if you're worthy of having your mind enlightened.. "duh, what's that he said cleetus? americans have terrorists too? someone come liverate me.." "no, no, no don't come ate my liver -- save me from my oppressive regigme government that alows organizations like the kkk and other various "anti-freedom" "evil-doing" militia types and such to flurish. but fuggit... like i was saying in the beging just "KILL! KILL! KILL!" who really cares why, and since when have we ever needed a "good" reason to kill? they're just a bunch of low life sand niggers right? hell we've destroyed a whole culture of the "original americans" for less... heh heh heh.. right? if we want it... just make the darkies look like savages then it's all good to take it.. oh and believe me we'll take it. kill the infidels!.. er i mean.. gas the jews!.. wait no that's not right.. uh.. nuke the jap's women and children!!!! yeah!!! oopss.. uh give the injuns fire water and fire crotch (syphilis) and relocate them to the worthless desert for defending 'their' country?... enslave the blacks? women are inferior..? vive la france? shit! we need a good battle cry that hasn't already been used.
 
oh yeah i forgot to address the issue of supposed prison abuse... well obviously the officer and gentleman's credo of integrity says that you can be as much of an evil-doer as the sandniggers cause their doin it too. just don't be quite as bad and it's all good... you know, like no demanding blow jobs from any local girls younger than thirteen and no stealing from old people just the young ones.. and always.. i mean always carry around your favorite beheading picture to justify any & everything. sincerely, a guy that just came back and seen way to much ugly shit on both sides. (glad to know that not a single american is half as bad as ANY damn sandnigger! we don't have any bad people here right? thought so.. there's wasn't ANYONE in jail the last time i checked other than those damn spics and nigger.) i'm outy! peace. (no foker not world peace -- bubye!!)
 
Tyrone, what a load of crap. You belong to the moral equivalency crowd, eh? It we've ever done one thing wrong, no matter what, we are no longer able to act on anything, ever. Nice, reasoned arguements, dude. I don't support the people here who just want to turn everything into a glass crater. BTW - 'gentleman' was dropped from 'officer and gentleman' a long time ago. You apparently don't have even a passing idea of just how ugly war is. You seem to just have the usual "Bush Lied so People Died:Bush=Hitler" level of analytic skills, and you default to anyone who isn't US is apparently us. Come back when you have something useful to say, rather than just turd droppings. That would include the people who just want to nuke everything.
 
Now, that poor old fella got wrapped up in all the cynicism and sartire and sarcasm and wasn't too bright. So he thought it was fair to let'em all have it. Niggers, spics, local girls over 13, not ones too old, any " sandnigger"... Well, he's just a little dumb, but his heart is in the right place. Dumb people don't know how to channel their outrage. He saw that tape and was outraged (Berg) and I don't blame him. So remember who is reading sometimes. Those with a certain IQ and below don't get much of this and can't discriminate well. see there ( for example some dumb people think the word discriminate is universally meant to mean to be prejudiced against some group) they don't know the word means to draw a line between one thing and another and therefore the are disabled in their "discriminatory skills", to turn a phrase.. So tell the stupid people what you mean so they can join you, and not stay stupid OK. We need to train the uniniciated to the intense agenda without alienating them. We need to show them who to be mad at. After all we want as many people as possible mad at the right people....Don't we??? Thanks, steve.
 
WOW, tons of hate, mixed with a bunch of active ideas. I am not bashing anybody yet. I'm simply amazed. I was beginning to think I was alone in my anger. This bunch of people want to take me off this earth because I am an American. Well I am a soldier too. I think we need to eliminate the worst of the lot, then teach the rest how to stand on their own two feet for freedom. Is this the only country in the world that truly values personal freedom? By law we seem to be the only country that enjoys personal freedom. I am willing to fight, and kill for my freedom. I also understand that in war not every person that dies is a soldier. Not every combatant wears a uniform either. The only way to win a war is to erase enough of the enemy.(make it painful to continue) We have to help them realize their course of atrocity, and war is not profitable. I want peace as bad as the next man, woman, or child. I also know that it does not come without a considerable price, that appearantly some people are not willing to pay. Therefore, I am willing to stand and pay that price for them, so that they can sit behind the lines and criticize the military for getting "dirty" once in a while. To tell the truth I would rather be on the front lines anyday than sitting on my butt bashing those who are willing to fight to protect those freedoms. Have a great day, God bless America, Our Freedoms, and the right to say what we want without being imprisoned or killed for it. SSG Brent R. Moody U.S. Army
 
.YOU KNOW THERE ARE TIMES IN OUR LIVES, WHEN WE SHOULD ALL TAKE A STAND. THROUGHT OUT HISTORY AMERICA HAS BEEN THE GUIDING LIGHT FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD. HAVE WE MADE MISTAKES, YOU BET. HOWEVER THIS WAR ON TERROR THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPERINCING, IS NEVER GOING AWAY, REGUARDLESS OF WHAT WE MIGHT DO.OUR ONLY SOLUTION IS TO TRY TO MINAMIZE IT.HOW BY GOING AT IT, AT IT'S CORE.BY TAKING IT TO THE ENEMY.ONLY THEN WITH OUR COURAGE AND DETERMINATION WILL WE BE SUCCESFUL IN MINIMIZING IT'S DEVASTATION WORLD-WIDE, CAN WE STOP IT, NO BUT WE CAN ATTACK IT WHERE IT LIVES. FAILING THIS' IT'S ARMAGEDDON, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
 
This by no means is to say that I am against the war on terrorism. This fight must continue for if it doesn't we are doomed as a society. What I am saying is that these people who commit acts of terrorism have been blinded to the truth of the world buy the people they follow. They must be shown the truth, for it is the truth and only the truth that will set them free. If they are not willing to at least listen to reason, then there is no other option and they will be dealt with accordingly. It is my guess that some will be willing and what they must understand is that the truth and dealing with the truth is not the path of least resistance. If it was I think there wouldn’t be as much terrorism around the world. It is easy to pick up a weapon or strap on a bomb and kill a bunch of innocent people and proclaim that it was done in God’s name. The leaders of all these terrorist organizations are the ones to blame, they are the ones who are educated, they are the ones who are brainwashing the poor saps to strap on bombs to kill the innocents, they are the ones whose only method of control is to promote fear and violence. It is the poor saps that we must help and show them there is another way and it is the leaders that must be captured or killed (whichever comes first). These 2 things have to be done concurrently because if you kill the leader with out educating the very people the leaders use to maintain their control that will only create martyrs and spawn more terrorism. If none of the above works then they all deserve to die, but we should at least give the poor saps a chance for they know not what they do. If all you peace niks out there read this and think I am on you side WRONG. Let me just tell you that they would talk to you but as soon as you turned your back to leave they would stab it. Anyway sorry for the mixed signal rant. If there is still any doubt to what my real feelings are those 5 knucleheads responsible for Nick Berg. Line’m up I’ll do them myself. Bunch of chicken shits can’t even show there faces when kill some one.
 
Blogosphere Ghuru: I am restoring my 1898 Krag rifle, but am concerned about modifications made to the firearm. There were several variants, but only rifle (30" barrels) or carbine (22" barrels) configurations were originally offered at time of manufacture. After the Spanish-American War, the Krag rifle still continued in military service, even though the M1903 Springfield was replacing the Krag to meet the higher demand for mauser type action and design over the Krag. Early in production of the M1903, .30-40 was chambered for military use. It wasn't until 1906 that the .30-06 ammunition ball was used, giving us a trajectorial advantage over the Krag. Better accuracy and velocity was achieved on the newly developed cartridge. The barrel on my Krag has an altered configuration, leading me to believe that the alterations were made sometime after the introduction of the .30-40 M1903: a. The barrel on my Krag was altered to 24", comparable to the M1903. b. The machine turned Barrel specs may have been the same for the M1903, making it feasible to standardize the Krags to current military use. c. The front sight installed on my Krag is of the M1903 type, having the same wear and appearance as the rest of the barrel. Perhaps, some of the parts became scarce after the Spanish-American War, requiring the modifications to accommodate the M1903 sight. d. If the specs for M1903 barrel length at 24" was the same as for the Krag at 24", using the M1903 front sight may have accurized the barrel in comparison to the M1903. I am not trying to create a theory for the modified configuration, but I am trying to determine whether this was a modification ordered by the Department of Defense in the latter use of the Krag. Please enlighten me with any information concerning my Krag. I am interested in restoring my Krag to military standards, but don't want to disregard any modifications made to bring it into specifications similar to the M1903. sasshayes@cs.com
 
Guys - if we're going to go the Latin route, let's do it right and not like the locals in the opening scene of "The Life of Brian" who don't know how to write "Romans go home" in proper Latin. "-ism" is short for "-ismus" and is a masculine noun, while "Carthago" is feminine. While it's correct to write "Carthago delenda est" or maybe, to be a little more up to date, "Mecca delenda est", we should write "Wahabismus delendus est". I know this sounds intolerably pedantic, but if we're going to crush those rats' asses, let's at least do it in style. In the meantime, if anyone can show me that the main driving force in Islam is anything other than warped male sexuality, I'm willing to listen.
 
Months have now passed since the murder of Mr. Berg; almost 3 1/2 years since 9/11. Each act has been followed by other atrocities, primarily against innocents, people who were primarily there to help the Iraqis. We've seen human slaughter houses in Fallujah, operated by these 'chosen of God'. People who had devoted their live to providing aid even under Hussein's rule, executed for no real reason but that they could. In Afghanistan, under the Taliban, people executed for no reason except they did not 'fit' a narrow, paranoid religous view. Proof again that more evil is committed in God's name that was ever imagined in Hell. As time has passed with no great outcry of horror or outrage from the Muslim mainstream for any of these, I've been forced to a realization that this may be the beginning of a religous war, the likes of which has not been seen since the Crusades. This makes 9/11 the Pearl Harbor of our generation. Yet we still try to act as if this is just a minor 'police action', not really a war for survival like WWII. I know there are those who will disagree, who will point out the individual exceptions. But when the mainstream of a religion and it community cannot bring itself to condemn the most horrific acts commited in its name, then it and they are as bloodily guilty as the actual perpetrators. The Romans said it best - "Silence is assent". And in honesty, they have done nothing that is not called for within Islam and it holy writings. Islam has never had a 'reformation' such as that which Christianity went through (and continues to go through), that might have worked to purge such archaic appendages from within. Since there is no central authority, Islam is only as stable/peaceful as the least stable of its mullahs' - M.A.D. on a religous setting. The Muslims of the world have a choice. If they really truly feel that what is going on does not represent Islam, then speak out, act, and take their religion back and redefine it. Speak out and stand up for their own humanity and reject these thugs by joining the fight to destroy them and their beliefs. Silence truly is assent. For myself, I weep for the innocent killed and still to die, for the rage that would have me rip the heart from these animals' living chest and hold it forth, screaming my rage in front of their dying eyes. I cry that I am driven to feel this way toward anything, to sacrifice my own humanity to this rage, but I will not call these creatures human who could do this in the name of any God. God forgives, but only those who truly feel contrition, who wish to change. Forgiveness is not automatic, not a 'right' or a free pass to committ evil in the foreknowledge of forgiveness. Being human and weak, I cannot find forgiveness in myself for these creatures or for their 'religion' in its failure to condemn and act against these animals. I know there is no forgiveness for what I would do, and feel must be done to end this for all time. The other option, the one I burn for when I see/hear of each new atrocity, is glass.
 
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