Mebbe I'm missing something...
But it sounds like the only home this family should be in is jail - not a $250K (Aussiebucks) palace with a hot tub and horse paddocks.
Interesting government thinking out of the box here.
Mebbe *everybody* will behave if we give them a nice house.
Good luck funding that, dudes.
We needa gun pic!
Too much politics for one day! Here's another pic from the oft promised but not delivered ammo post...
Flintlock going home and knocking back the frizzen. More spark than it looks, but the flint needs dressing and adjusting.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
John,
I have just posted about a new game called FryCry. I think you will like the 6 screens I have posted at my photo blog.
posted by
Dave J on April 1, 2004 10:36 PM
Very nicely timed photo. I just love flintlocks. 1795 Springfield Type 2 ??
Tink
posted by Craig Baker on April 2, 2004 6:15 AM
It's actually a (repro) french musket - the model for the US version. I don't snap my real flintlocks - the locks are hard to get replacement parts for!
posted by
John of Argghhh! on April 2, 2004 8:16 AM
the flint needs dressing
What sort of dressing do you use on your flints? I like garlic ranch...
posted by
triticale on April 2, 2004 6:06 PM
I prefer a nice balsamic vinaigrette. Less greasy for some reason.
posted by
John of Argghhh! on April 2, 2004 6:12 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
A note from SGT Hook, in the 'Stan!
SGT Hook checks in!
Hello All,
I'm in the Stan now and have been for a few days. I find the morale
here to be both high and low. We, the incoming units, are over the top on
morale and espirit which is expected. The outgoing guys, though excited
to be heading home after 9 months, for the most part seem to be tired. A
little negative or disgruntled (they were originally expecting a
6-month rotation) but mostly just burned out.
What effect has the negative campaigning have? Little I think. I can't
speak for the joes in Iraq, but here the op-tempo is high and little
time is spent follwing news and politics. We get the Stars and Stripes and
Armed Forces Network which typically don't inundate us with political
news anyway. Interestingly enough, those of us just arriving have been
exposed to all the campaigning hoopla just prior to departing and it has had no
effect on our morale. So, I'm not sure that such negative press plays
as much on our Soldiers as it does our families back home. My two cents.
Hook
Zac, here's an answer to one of your long ones...
Zac, who came to Castle Argghhh! via the discussions over at She Who Will Be Obeyed (I think, anyway) and I have been having an amicable chat over our differences in word-view. Rather than keep it buried in the comments, I thought I would drag at least part of it out into the light of day. Zac has more time to write than I do at the moment - so, Zac, don't feel slighted if I don't get to everything you write to this level of response!
Cut me some slack, too, readers. This originally started out as a response to a comment, and isn't neccessarily as polished as I would like it to be - but I didn't want to lose the moment, either.
With all those spineless caveats, here we go, Zac's comments are the blockquotes:
I agree with your friend partly. I think these wars are additional wars. I don't think all of those Iraqis currently committing terrorism, were terrorists to begin with. In that way, I think it's self-defeating to have gone into Iraq. But now that we are there, I agree we can't just cut and run.
(Pedantic Mode) I disagree, on technical grounds. And I fault the administration and the media for there being a disagreement between us on this simply because neither are truly accurately portraying what's going on. Afghanistan and Iraq are not two different wars. The problem is that people perceive them to be (and therein lies my gripe with the administration and the media - for allowing/fostering that perception). They are two campaigns in a larger war, and should be viewed as such. Even as you and I debate this, there are other operations on-going in the intel/SOF realm that continue the war in yet another campaign. That does not mean that further activity will be of the large-scale expeditionary nature - and this one has borne fruit, good and bad, like it or not. Libya is one such instance. Syria is trying to get on our good side (I suspect mostly in appearances, but there is still leverage there) and even North Korea has taken note that at least under this President, the US will ACT, instead of act. Like it or not, much of what has happened in the last couple of years is due to the feckless response of Bush senior and Clinton - by giving the perception of weakness. (/Pedantic Mode)
I disagree that Kerry is going to do that. I also disagree that he'd sell the US down the river, sell us out to the UN. I see it like this: he's going to engage the UN and the world community, offload some of the burden in Iraq onto them.
That's no different from what the Bush administration has been trying to do for months.
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After Kerry gets his classified briefings, you may be right. And you are correct that the Bush administration is trying to offload some of the burden. My problem with Kerry is that he will seek permission to act in the interests of the US, and not act if he does not get that permission. I'm all for building coalitions. If you want to play, join. If you want to influence the decision-making, join. If you don't want to, fine. But the fact that Germany and France don't want to be involved does not mean that I am going to give them the right to say that I can't go do something that I percieve to be in my best interest. We can certainly founder on this issue - you can ask the question, "How is that different from a criminal deciding to rob the bank, "In his own best interest" against the wishes of society. The answer to that question lies in the discussion of motives and outcomes. Many on the left argue the whole thing is about oil, and we therefore are not any different. I disagree, but that comes down to the polarization you allude to later in your comment when you say "For better or worse, a lot of country's leadership and citizenry can't stand Bush. " Okay. So what? I can't stand Dominique de Villepin or Gerhard Schroeder, either. So, I'm wrong? (For the record, I have lived among the French and Germans, for many years. I was born in Germany, and have spent almost 20 years overseas in my life thus far). There are also many governments and citizens who like George Bush. Neither fact alone gives them the right to veto US actions. As for the UN? That's a whole different rant, with a part of that discussion being a treatise on confusing democratic forms with actual liberty. Just because people vote, doesn't make it free. Lots of elections held in the old USSR, for example. The UN is perhaps more accurately termed the United Governments, as it is a body comprised of representatives of governments. No problem with that, the state of the world and technology is such now that it would be unwieldy for it to be any other way. But - how many of the governments therein are truly representative of their peoples? How many governments there hold their position at home through their armies? How many of those governments want to see change like we felt needed in Iraq and Afghanistan - unless they themselves felt threatened by the nations in question? The data analyzed so far on the Food For Oil program is not favorable to the argument of the UN as an executive agency. Nor has the UN's record in Peace Keeping been all that good, either, absent a willingness on both sides to keep the peace. So, when it comes to issues of direct US interests, I'm all for asking all of 'em for help, but if they don't want to, and can't provide any better answer than "Because!" or that isn't obviously tilted by their own-self interest, then I say, "Hasta la vista, baby!" and let's move on. Does that mean we'll be right? No, but just because they disagree doesn't mean they'll be right, either.
?Just because Kerry's brand of politics is more acceptable to the world community than Bush's, it doesn't follow that Kerry would be selling us out. It means we gain a lot of new potential allies. It means the allies we do have may be more enthusiastic and pliable.
True. Except I think that Kerry will let them tell us what to do in the large sense. Like Clinton did in many respects. He'll throw a few missiles around, so he can look like he's done something, but he won't make any really major move that doesn't have everybody's buy-in. That response is what got us to 9/11 in the first place. There's no doubt we could be better at playing well with others, but as often as not, that just gets us paying someone else's bill. As in Kosovo. Why did we have to take care of that mess? Why not the Europeans leading the charge with us in support? Instead, it was the other way around, with them barely in support, but wanting to vet everything (read Clark's book on the war). Reality is, those nations aren't going to act (well, not true, France will act in her former colonies without UN permission) when they know they can get "Mikey" to do it.
For better or worse, a lot of country's leadership and citizenry can't stand Bush. They find him arrogant. Bush burned his bridges with some key allies. Kerry will get a better response from those allies in whatever he tries to do.
Um, aside from a "So what?, I find the French and Germans to be arrogant." Going along to get along isn't what Presidents are paid to do. They are paid to lead. That means deciding where we ought to go, and then convincing the rest of us to follow. If we disagree, they lose their job. That is what Bush has done, and I concede he may lose his job because he hasn't necessarily done a good job of explaining why we should go where he wants us to. I still prefer that to a poll-driven President who is so needy for the validation of the job that he does whatever it takes to keep it. Clinton's huge flaw and greatest damage to his 'legacy' is that he didn't have the courage of his convictions. He wanted to hold on to the job so badly that he didn't lead - he just ran to the front of wherever the polls told him the mob was heading and said, "Follow me!". That's not leading. Leading is where you tell the mob where you think they should head, and get them to follow you there. And, if you can't do that, then you aren't the right guy. The Congress, especially the House, is where the passions of the people are meant to be represented and expressed and influence policy. The job of President is to lead, to draw the people where he feels they should be headed. And if he can't do that, if he just runs to the front of the mob, then they shouldn't have the job. That's Kerry to me. I lived through 8 years of no leadership, just aimless bumping in search of adulation, and I'm not interested in it again. I want a Man for All Season, not a Man for Any Reason.
Now, you can call that "butt-kissing" but I think we gain more than we lose.
Cut me some slack here. It's a blog, not a scholarly journal, so I get to engage in some hyperbole. But, as I have expressed earlier, it's butt-kissing when you reflexively, rather than reflectively, kow-tow to the other guy's opinion. I don't see Kerry acting reflectively in that regard.
Kerry will work at expanding the circle of countries we can enlist in the war on terrorism. Recall this is what Bush did after 9-11, before he became belligerent and "go it alone" starting later in 2002 leading up to the Iraq effort. I don't think that was necessary. Just my pinion, "freedom fries" not withstanding.
Feh on Freedom Fries. That was pointless and silly. Shoulda just called 'em fries. Kerry will go back to the law enforcement model that those other countries are comfortable with and which resulted in 9/11, but I believe with no mailed fist inside the velvet glove.
What makes you think Bush isn't doing that now anyway? Iraq overshadows the news - but that doesn't mean we aren't also pursuing the LE model as well. And the fact that we have shown we're serious about this has probably gotten us more support. I don't think we've lost support in that regard, and despite the rhetoric of the Spanish government, I suspect they are all over helping us deal with that.
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Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
(Ed. Note: Jack at Random Fate had some trouble with the comment template, so I'm posting this for him).
I wanted to post this as a comment to your post "Zac, here's an answer
to one of your long ones..." but it wouldn't take it, so here it is in
an email:
What I find interesting is that many commetators don't recognize that
France and Germany are acting in what they feel are their own best
interests, just as President Bush is acting in what he feels is in the
best interests of the United States.
Since we feel it is OK to act in our own best interests, why are we
condemning France and Germany for acting in their own perceived best
interests, even if those interests don't align with ours? We seem to
feel that Germany and France "owe" us something. Perhaps after World
War II and the Cold War they do, but when does that obligation end?
When will we be willing to acknowledge that France and Germany may have
interests that diverge from ours or feel that the strategy that we
pursue is not the right strategy?
I'm not saying at all that Germany and France are correct, but it seems
to me that we are being more than a bit arrogant to say that we can act
in our own interests and to hell with those who disagree while
simultaneously getting our ire up over Germany and France saying pretty
much the same thing, to hell with those who disagree with them.
posted by
Jack of Random Fate on April 2, 2004 5:30 AM
The difference as I see it is that France and Germany are supposed to be our allies, and yet their best interest seems to be centered around sticking a knife in our back.
And now with the fallout of Saddam's thuggist regime, there are more and more ties and tentative links indicating that at least France and most likely Germany were violating the U.N. sanctions and dealing with Saddam in illegal trade.
All of sudden their best interest is seen that of a crook's best interest, keep the cops from finding out the truth of the criminal activities.
As to 'owing' us, well, we paid in our blood to pull them out of WWI, WWII, and the Cold War (not so much blood there, but toil and money and our troops). It's only human nature to feel like someone 'owes' us after we paid such a high price.
They don't, of course, after all, who could repay something like that? Where would you start?
But, since we paid, we'd expect them to respect and honor our sacrifice by treating us with respect and honor.
Dealing with Saddam, seeking to undermine our support internationally, trying to stymie us at every turn and every chance they had, and acting like they owned the high moral road, well, that sticks in one's craw.
And hence the feelings of betrayal.
Anyways, I rambled on long enough.
posted by
Russell on April 2, 2004 3:59 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
Here's something I can share.
...because the Chief of Staff wants it shared. It's a mixed bag of good and bad, and what some will see as good, others will see as bad. Bottom line, it represents how the Chief intends to address the challenges the Army faces.
Yesterday afternoon (?) at the AFNORTH Theater, MG Bargewell (MG B) gave a rather detailed rundown of a meeting he and other General fficers (GOs) had with the Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Army, GEN Schoomaker. The topic was the transformation of the Army and my notes follow (most of this information can be found on AKO and all is UNCLASSIFIED):
1) The presentation consisted of one slide the text of which was the Soldier's Creed. At the bottom of the slide was a saying/motto that GEN Schoomaker coined, "Warrior: Are you wearing your dog tags?" MG B stressed that the CoS is committed to instilling into each soldier two things: the Warrior Ethos and the fact that the Army is an expeditionary force. To this end, he has mandated the wearing of the American flag on the Battle Dress Uniform and, although he has not made it mandatory, wants soldiers to wear their dog tags. The CoS stressed that the mindset of the soldier must be one of always ready to deploy. The nature of the asymmetrical threat (as he characterizes terrorism) dictates this mindset and it looks as if it will be the reality for the forseeable future.
2) The CoS has determined that Basic Training is not producing enough
soldiers proficient in the basic skills of fire and maneuver and has ordered a revamp of the training to ensure that every soldier can perform these critical tasks (see the front page and accompanying article of this week's Army Times). To illustrate the CoS's point, MG Bargewell referenced the 507th Maintenance Company's (Jessica Lynch's unit) performance when ambushed by a relatively small enemy force last April in Iraq. MG B said that while they may have been great mechanics they were not ready for combat because they had not been afforded the opportunity to train in a combat-like situation (the 507th trained at both the National Training Center and Joint Readiness Training Center but remained in the Corps Support Area, thus, were not exposed to the direct fire/combat/POW situations they encountered).
3) The CoS outlined to the GOs seventeen areas on which he will focus,
only two of which MG B addressed:
--The Soldier: The CoS stated that it has become such a familiar mantra over the years for senior leaders to talk about "the soldier's well-being" as the "No. 1 objective" that it has become lip service. The CoS has directed that every deployed soldier in a combat situation is outfitted with the latest technology in both body armor (The Interceptor bullet-proof vest) and weapons.
--The Bench: Junior leaders (both enlisted and officer) in the active-duty Army/National Guard/Reserves need to be ready to step up to increased responsibilties due the "First Team" not always being available due to high
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OPTEMPO.
4) A favorite analogy, according to MG B, of the CoS is that the Army is like a fifty-five gallon drum with the spigot too high. That is to say, there is an untapped reservoir of personnel. On any given day there is a "ghost army" consisting of 81,000 non-deployable soldiers due to PCSs, schools, medical hold, and special assignments such as the Black Knights and the Army entertainment shows. While some of this is unavoidable, some changes are in the works so minimize this number ("lower the spigot"). For example, the Army is going to institute a stabilization program whereby a soldier will be stationed at an installation for seven years with the by-products being better cohesiveness within units and lower PCS costs. Furthermore, changes will be made in the Officer/NCO Education Systems. These include eliminating certain schools (CAS3 is operating the last of it's courses right now and then in the words of MG B "it is history"), curtailing the time spent in some schools (the CoS mentioned CGSC, the Sergeants Major Academy, and the First Sergeant's Course), and offering some schooling through Distance Learning.
5) The CoS talked about a new initiative which will affect the organization of the Army's ten divisions with the buzzword being "modularity". By FY 07 the number of brigades will increase from 38 to 48 which is roughly five per division. The brigades will be made smaller in the hope of increasing their maneuverability. Furthermore, the CoS wants to standardize the brigades giving him the ability to reach out and pull, for instance, the Aviation Brigade from the 82d and attach it to a Task Force as needed. Right now, each of the Aviation brigades are different hindering his ability to pick and choose.
6) 18,000 soldiers will be transferred on either a mandatory or volunteer basis to combat arms MOSs. The CoS said that by FY 07 the Army will create (counting Active-duty/NG/Reserve) 149 new MP units, 16 Transporation units,
11 Bio-chemical units, 9 Petroleum/Water Puirfication units, 8 active-duty Civil Affairs units and 4 PsyOp units. The Combat Arms units will also see an increase. He mentioned 22 new Infantry units, as well as 22 new Armor units. A few of the pros of this is an increase in the number of leadership positions and increased time spent with troops. He specifically mentioned that the MP Corps will re-focus its wartime mission to return to a more combat-oriented role. MG B mentioned that in WWII MPs acted almost like scouts in that they would be among the first units in an area thus increasing their chances of enemy contact. They will return to being utilized in such a manner.
7) The CoS is looking at linking retirement pay more closely to the amount
of years served and raising the mandatory retirement age. As it stands, whether a soldier serves 26 years or 38 years (as MG B has) they still receive the same percentage of retirement pay. The CoS intends to create incremental percentage increases based on years served over 26 years.
8) At this point, MG B segued into how the federal budget will drive many of the changes the CoS wants to make. According to MG B, the CoS said that
the FY 05 and 06 military budgets are relatively set and look good. In FY 07 and FY 08, however, the CoS anticipates things getting tighter due to the lack of funds available to pay for all of the Baby Boomers that will begin receiving retirement benefits (specifically, Medicare and Social Security).
The CoS believes that cuts will have to be made to pay for these underfunded programs and fears that the military budget could absorb the brunt of the cuts. As a result, the CoS wants to institute as many changes as is feasible over the next 2 1/2 years in order to take advantage of the favorable budget climate.
9) The CoS emphasized that the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) will be long,
with high OPTEMPO and deployments being the rule rather than the exception.
Furthermore, he anticipates the use of NG/Reserve soldiers to get tougher
with more justification required before their call-up.
10) MG B wrapped up the session by saying that he worked for 14 straight years with the CoS and knows him to be a straight shooter when it comes to communication. He told that GOs that "everything is on the table for review except the Army Values." For example, the CoS stated that he is "getting rid of the Finance branch because they don't do anything but screwup our pay anyway." The CoS said that after coming back on active duty to act as the CoS he didn't get a paycheck for 4 1/2 months. One day his wife received a letter from the VA saying "how sorry we are about the passing away of your husband...." (This is the Chief of Staff of the Army!) He also said that he is getting rid of half of the Human Resources Command (formerly PERSCOM) because they have too many people and not enough work. Finally, the CoS talked in generalities about the the future of the Army overseas. He did say that he anticipated probably five "bases" to remain in Europe--combat brigades in Grafenwoehr and Vilseck, the hospital in Heidelberg, SETAF in Italy, and some kind of task force in Eastern Europe.
With that the session was concluded.
� Secure this line!
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Good Lord, who doesn't wear their dog tags?
What has this man's Army come to?
posted by
blaster on April 1, 2004 8:28 PM
John,
FYI, MG Eldon Bargewell is one of two holders of the Distinguished Service Cross on active duty. He received it for actions as an NCO with MACV-SOG in Vietnam. He is also a former commander of 1st SFOD-D as is the CSA.
The other DSC holder is an SF Major who got it for actions in Afghanistan with 3rd Bn., 5th SFG. He was recently selected for SF Battalion Command.
The Finance Corps was slated for elimination at least as far back as January 2003 when I heard about it at a presentation by COL (Retd) Don Snider in Wash. DC on his book, THE FUTURE OF THE ARMY PROFESSION.
posted by
Chris on April 2, 2004 1:41 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
I missed this.
And I'm glad I stumbled upon it looking for something else.
Saluting Capt. Kimberly Hampton (posthumously).
At Castle Argghhh! we may be laggards, but we catch up eventually.
Now is the time at Castle Argghhh! when we dance. In Memorium.

Wonder where a lot of the cool military stuff I used to post went?
Long time readers know that I don't post anything that is work-related or comes to me via that channel, simply as a courtesy to my employer and my client and to avoid any conflicts of interest.
The other stuff, the stuff that I did post, I got via my email network, or in some cases off the 'net itself.
I have always exercised editorial judgement on that stuff. For example, I had the briefings on IEDs and the M1 tank that was taken out by the double-impulse HEAT round well before they hit the blogosphere, but held on to them because I thought they did represent operational information that should be held back until we fully evaluate it. After they hit the big press, I went with them, getting 'scooped' by other bloggers, like Matt at Blackfive, who has his own sources. I DON"T fault Matt at all! I live under different rules. I have an active security clearance, and the nice, ridiculously high salary I enjoy depends on that. So I have to play by different rules. What is not a crime for someone without a clearance to publish is a crime for someone with a clearance,
Anyway, to make this long story short - the Chief of Staff, Army, put out a blistering missive to all and sundry regarding operational information. After all, we are, trite as it sounds to some, An Army At War. The practical upshot of that is, virtually everything we do anymore is effectively classified For Official Use Only, FOUO. And even if I get something from someone with no military connection, if it looks like operational info, I have to act as if it is FOUO, or I am personally liable.
From my personal view, that has resulted in a lot of stuff that I still get but can't use. And, I think we are over-classifying, but the Chief was trying to make a point, and I happen to agree with and support it - even if I think we're going overboard in execution.
This will settle out with time, and a balance will be restored. But, until then, some of the cool stuff I get I can't share.
Some of you have already suffered the slings and arrows of this policy change.
You know who you are...
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Keep on trucking with the historical items, hoss.
They're plenty cool.
posted by
werebear on March 30, 2004 9:22 PM
There is a war going on.
I suspect we have an adequate number of Liberal reporters crawling around to represent a problem. We don't need them from the friendlies.
:-)
posted by Steve on March 31, 2004 5:13 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
On the GAU-8 'rifle'...
Another email clarifies what's being procured and what's being done with it...
...heheh.. thanks, John.. yeah, he's really getting one... his paperwork is almost through now.. he's got a British Ferret, but I think that someone else had tried mounting one on an armored car, and when the weapon was fired, it kept breaking the mounts... so, as far as I know, it is gonna be mounted on the Ferret... heh, I think he might have to upgrade his Armored Car to something bigger, personally...
and, oh yeah, he intends to shoot it... here is what he just e-mailed me..
"I'm just getting a single shot - not the whole gatling gun style affair. the barrel is one of the barrels off an a-10. I'll build an action around the single barrel and have a pretty damn neat single shot."...
..still.. a 30mm?... wow... I think he said he could make rounds for it for around 12 bucks a pop.... he's one crazy guy... Alaska has some pretty neat gun laws, evidently..
all the best,
XXXX
While doing a little research, I came across this page and got distracted. Waaaay cool re-enacting in England. But - I think herein also lies the answer to the question above - how to mount the dang thing...
On a more serious note: How about this? Already built to take a pounding, and gives you some mobility, too.
Of course, that's probably too small. So, perhaps this.
Update on the New Orleans Search Case.
I have a trackback to my post on that subject that offers a much more informed view than I had. I was gratified to find that Brutal Hugs does not consider me a 'chicken-little' blogger on the subject! 8^)
He also has the info that I hadn't found - the details of the case. So, I was 'howling' a bit - but it got me what I wanted...
I'm still sticking to my guns on the issue of allowing LEO access to my home (there are exceptions, of course, and I do have cop friends), but in general, as the courts have also held that a right undefended can be interpreted as a right surrendered in the context of the single instance, I'll defend.
But - you should go read Brutal Hug's discourse on the subject (even if he can't spell Argghhh! - two g's, three h's, sirrah!).
A snippet that helps illuminate the case:
The police went to the suspect's home (a 14x16 foot trailer) and entered at the invitation of the suspect's roommate. They were told the defendant was in the bedroom, so they go to the bedroom to conduct a Terry interview. Once in the bedroom, they discover the defendant is missing. So far, so good. They've done nothing wrong. Here's where it gets contentious.
The police then check the immediate area to make sure the defendant isn't hiding in the closets or under the bed because they fear he might jump out and harm them. In the course of that search, they find a couple rifles, but they left them there. The cops ran outside and found the suspect hiding in the woods (guess he jumped out the window). They questioned and arrested him, got a search warrant, and come back to seize the rifles.
I have to agree with the overall thrust of Brutal Hugs' argument here: if that's all there was to it - and the ruling truly limits it to that, then I have much less angst about it, and I fall back to the "shall not cross with my permission" stand. Of course, I'm hosed in that regard if The Wife or The Kid let's 'em in, but that's a horse of a different color. Not that I'm hiding anything. The collection is on the 'net after all, and I did a presentation on it at Rotary, where the Chief of Police is a fellow member...
I get gun questions alla time. But this one....
...this is a first!
Somebody wrote:
...hey John, I just wanted to drop you a quick note to ask some neighborly
advice.... a good friend, former Jarhead Buddy, and certifiable Gun Nut is
in the process of purchasing the weapon that was developed for the nose of
that A-10 Warthog... he's already got loads of full auto weapons.... from
the M-2 .50cal on down... but, he and I were talking recently... what in the
great-livin-hell is he gonna MOUNT that thing on?... so, knowing you are an
expert in weapons, I thought I'd throw it out there for you to mull over...
all the best,
XXXX
Here is my response:
Howinhell is he legally getting a GAU-8? Surely not in shootable condition? There was one on the NFA Registry before 1984? Wow. I'll bet the ATF has kittens about that one. What the hell is market value on that?
Ammo's going to be a problem...
Mount it on, heh. For display? Or to haul around and (shudder) shoot?
Must know these things before I can answer. Hmmmm, Now I gotta figger out what the muzzle energy is. Sheesh. Ask a simple question, why doncha?
Are you sure he isn't getting a 20mm or 7.62mm gatling? If he's really getting a GAU-8, I'm going to have to come visit. I know there are some 7.62s on the Registry and there might be some 20mms, but the 30mm?
The real question is: Where is he going to park it? (Check my site)
However, my first recommendation for mounting it? In an A-10.
Cheers,
John
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Best. Argghhh! Picture. Ever.
posted by
Flea on March 29, 2004 11:09 AM
I got a follow-up email - the guy is getting a barrel, not a gun. He wants to build a rifle out of it.
I'm still not standing anywhere near the thing - but at least it simplfies producing the answer from my perspective!
posted by
John of Argghhh! on March 29, 2004 12:34 PM
� Dismissed, Soldier!
Someday, perhaps the Mistress of Castle Argghhh!...
...will let me bring one of these home!
Now if I could only remember what it was... from the museum at Watervliet Arsenal, where almost all of our cannon tubes are made.
Reporting As Ordered, Sir! �
Been there. I don't remember that little cannon.
I was at Watervliet Arsenal installing a Kearney and Trecker flexible manufacturing system in the early '90s. It's located in the building across the parking lot from the museum.
Neat place. The museum building is itself a museum piece. It's made almost entirely of iron in a kind of early industrial pre fab way. The American poet Steven Vincent Benet lived at the arsenal when his father was commandant. The arsenal is on Highway 155. The local high school football team is called the Cannoneers [insert comment about iron balls].
In a previous life I worked at Ladish in Cudahy, Wisconsin where the forged steel howitzer breech blocks were made. We called them pumpkins. Small world it is when I see a pumpkin turn into a finished breech on one of my systems.
posted by Fred Boness on March 28, 2004 1:24 PM
When you worked at Ladish did you ever use those heavy duty lifting clamps which were like a C-clamp cut from alloy steel plate and had a chain link assembled to them?
If so we can do a Kevin Bacon on our previous lives.
posted by
triticale on March 28, 2004 4:07 PM
Now there is an unexpected twist in the thread!
I got a pretty good tour of the museum - to include going into the back where they are assembling and restoring some of the original arsenal machinery, hoping to put together a small production line. If I lived there I would help. But then I'd have to live in New York... so, never mind.
They have a helluva mortar collection that's not on display, as well as a largish collection of WWI machine guns. I had a good time. Next time I'm in the area, I'll go back!
posted by
John of Argghhh! on March 28, 2004 4:57 PM
My guess would be a 12lbr similar to the shots I sent you, but this one is mounted in a cradle with dual spring recoil cylinders (cradle trunions are positioned similar to the 12lbr). Would this have been a trials piece from mid/late 1890s? The mount looks to be for a test range firing point.
Cheers
JMH
posted by J.M. Heinrichs on March 28, 2004 7:26 PM
Sorry, sweetie. We don't have room for that one. Unless you want to build me a 58,000 square foot home - in which case you can fill up half of it with cannons. Leaving me with a lot of space for my toys!
posted by
Beth Donovan on March 29, 2004 5:56 AM
Ok, John. She said it in front of witnesses. Start digging the new foundations.
posted by homebru on March 29, 2004 9:34 AM
Let's see, 58,000 square feet would be 25 x 2320. That's an indoor cannon range! Go for it!
posted by Fred Boness on March 29, 2004 2:22 PM
... but it takes up less room than a shoe closet!
Cheers
JMH
posted by J.M. Heinrichs on March 29, 2004 2:41 PM
Well John, you scored. She stuck her tongue out at that one!
posted by
John of Argghhh! on March 30, 2004 7:17 AM
� Dismissed, Soldier!