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January 13, 2007

A whatziss of a different color.

One of these things is not like the other. Of course, that's the easy part.

So, what *is* the thing that's not like the other? What's the oddness of it being here in the first place?

One of these things is not like the other...

Extra credit? Who, what, and where on the photo.

Just to be kind - hi-res here.

Comments on A whatziss of a different color.
USCitizen briefed on January 13, 2007 10:20 AM

Would that be an M2HB on a German Train car?

Neffi briefed on January 13, 2007 10:32 AM

Vickers tripod amidst the Maxims, atop a Red Russian troop train- Russian civil war.
(Try saying that three times fast, eh?)

Neffi briefed on January 13, 2007 10:39 AM

Or maybe not a Vickers tripe- but the others are on wheel-mounts...

Heartless Libertarian briefed on January 13, 2007 11:37 AM

I was under the impression that the Russians used Maxim-type MGs, rather than Vickers, but I could be wrong.

The tripod is definitely out of place amongst all the cute little carriage mounts. Can't be an M2 tripod, though-M2 didn't come into US service until the early 1920s, which would be too late for the Russian Civil War.

fdcol63 briefed on January 13, 2007 11:50 AM

.. too late for the Russian Civil War .."

That's the feeling I get from the uniforms in the photo, too.

Dan Brock briefed on January 13, 2007 12:41 PM

Way out on a limb here. I'm guessing it's the "soldier of a different color" at the center and therefore in German East Africa. Usambara Railway?

MajMike briefed on January 13, 2007 12:52 PM

Persian Corridor, trainload of Lend Lease groceries.

Chief Shaffer briefed on January 13, 2007 01:21 PM

That would be the Colt-Browning "Potato Digger" Machine Gun being cleaned by the Soldier in the right foreground. Looks like an original Model 1895. Here is a similiar gun (original US gun inspected at the Colt's Plant by US ORD Inspector JTT...John T Thompson, known for...) mounted on a wheeled carriage http://www.historicreproductions.com/restore4.htm

SangerM briefed on January 13, 2007 01:39 PM

Uniforms look Russian, could be Czech legion?

The guy in the foreground, right is cleaning his weapon (note the rags and parts on the edge of the train), which looks like it was mounted on the tripod, BUT, I can't tell what it is. The very heavy barrel is laid on the boxes across the tripod mount from the fellow. It also looks like a couple of retaining rings are sitting to the left of the barrel. Also, there is an ammo box on a tray attached to the side of the tripod, looks like it could be a 30-size bullet...? All of the other machineguns (maxims?) have belts hanging out of the feed slot. As for the rest, it looks like it could be a train car, but I don't think it's moving because of the gun parts on the ledge. And it's carrying camoflage (branches) which is interesting too. Also, I assume the photo tech at the time would have shown movement, at least of the branches... This was either a set piece or a train at rest... Very sophisticated set-up, though, so maybe one of the Russian Armored trains of WWII.

OR either a pay train or a VIP train, maybe Lenin's?

TS briefed on January 13, 2007 05:19 PM

Don't see a cooling jacket for the tri-pod mount. The receiver has different dimensions and the shield is different. It could be there simply because that is what they could get their hands on at the time.

BillT briefed on January 13, 2007 09:05 PM

Hmmmmmmm. The tripod's been ID'ed, I think, so I'll take a SWAG at the personnel -- White Army (Белая Армия) troops in the Ukraine, ca. 1921.

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