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January 04, 2007

Buddies, source, differences by.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Get upset if you're too busy to talk to them for a week.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Are glad to see you after years, and will happily carry on the same conversation you were having last time you met.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Are the reason you have no food.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Call your parents Mr. And Mrs.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Call your parents mom and dad.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Bail you out of jail and tell you what you did was wrong.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Would be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...we screwed up...but man that was fun!"

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Have never seen you cry.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Cry with you.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Borrow your stuff for a few days then give it back.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Keep your stuff so long they forget it's yours.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Know a few things about you.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct quotes from you.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Will kick the whole crowds ass that left you behind.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Would knock on your door.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Walk right in and say, "I'm home!"

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Are for a while.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Are for life.

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Have shared a few experiences...
MILITARY FRIENDS: Have shared a lifetime of experiences no Civilian could ever dream of...

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will take your drink away when they think you've had enough.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Will look at you stumbling all over the place and say, "You better drink the rest of that, you know we don't waste...that's alcohol abuse!!" Then carry you home safely and put you to bed...

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will talk crap to the person who talks crap about you.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Will knock them the hell out for using your name in vain.

H/t, Dom J.

Comments on Buddies, source, differences by.
supercaffinated briefed on January 4, 2007 06:55 AM

This would be hilarious if it weren't so true...

J. briefed on January 4, 2007 07:04 AM

I have to echo the above sentiment. True, true. Great post.

Sgt. B. briefed on January 4, 2007 09:47 AM

This is so very true...

FbL briefed on January 4, 2007 11:00 AM

I know this is somewhat tongue in cheek, and is speaking to a depth of connection born by shared commitments and shared experience whose existence I can only dimly perceive (much less understand). But this one gets to me:

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.

Not this civilian, okay? ;)

--FbL (who's probably feeling a little overly sensitive today)

John of Argghhh! briefed on January 4, 2007 11:10 AM

Duly noted, Fuzzy. All of us have civilian friends who are close enough to qualify as "military" friends.

Just as we all have inconstant military friends.

The ratios are usually just reversed.

You could substitute "Cop Friends, Firefighter Friends, Paramedic Friends, High Steel Friends" for military in this list and it wouldn't change anything.

It just refers to the bonding that occurs among people who do dangerous things and rely on each other.

And this is a milblog, not a cop blog... 8^)

kat-missouri briefed on January 4, 2007 12:53 PM

I would like to add a few comments. This even applies if you are a civilian with military friends.

Additional notes:

1) Civilian Friend: Calls and asks if they can bring a friend to dinner
Military Friend: Shows up at door with ten guys he just met on base, whose first names he can't remember (thank G-d for name tags), who weren't able to make it home for leave and ask if they can crash at your place.

2) Civilian Friend: Asks what they can bring to the barbecue and shows up with a big bowl of potatoe salad and a six pack of Hieneken
Military Friend: Shows up with four cases of Budweiser, three guys from the base with no place else to go, a bottle of tobasco sauce and four very healthy appetites.

3) Civilian Friend: Goes on a "beer run", comes back 15 minutes later with a six pack
Military Friend: Goes on "beer run", comes back 10 minutes later with 2 more cases of Bud and another guy from base he doesn't know but chatted with for 2 seconds at the liquor store. He works under the chief that knows your chief and the chief is a really good guy so he figured it would be okay to invite this guy back to your place.

I'll think of more shortly.

Cricket briefed on January 4, 2007 01:30 PM

Civilian friend plays music that is rather crappy.
Military friend helps you wire your house to rock their world and then hacks the database where the digital music files are kept.

Civilian friend gets lost and has you pick them up.
Military friend keeps a map, compass and cell phone handy.

Civilian friend thinks NRO is the NRA
Military friend keeps their membership current.

Civilian friend thinks guns and weapons are the same thing.
Military friend KNOWS they are different.

Damian briefed on January 4, 2007 03:00 PM

These are good, including the ones in comments. Let's see if I can add one more...

CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Swear when they get angry.
MILITARY FRIENDS: Don't even realize every other word out of their mouth is a cuss word, but would apologize profusely in a heartbeat if they were told it was offending your mother at Easter dinner.

Not that I have any personal experience with that, of course...

Murray briefed on January 4, 2007 03:11 PM

Actually most of my army friends call my father sir.

SangerM briefed on January 4, 2007 06:09 PM

> Actually most of my army friends call my father sir.

For some reason, that's the one I like and identify with most. Just sort of rolls of the tongue, doesn't it. I work with an E-7 who keeps calling me Mr. I just today told him to call me by my first name. He said he'd call me Mr. first-name. feh.

As for differences: I am not in the right frame of mind to do this properly, but things I used to do with Army friends that I've never done with civilian friends: lean on some guy (or several guys) while sleeping; eat right off one or several buddies' plates withut asking (or let others do that with mine); use the same plastic spoon the other guy just finished with (after cleaning it off on my fatigue shirt of course); rifle a buddy's wallet looking for condoms, schnitzel money, or girlfriends' phone numbers; stand guard outside the barracks room while other guys were gettin' some (and NOT me)...

And one other thing about military people that I don't think you'll see in the civilian world (or maybe not as much--hard to say): I took a friend and fellow NCO to Mannheim one time. He'd made a mistake, and was court-martialed and was on his way to Leavenworth for few years, and my 1SG assigned me to take him to jail. Most of us in the company felt this guy had been made a scapegoat, and a lot of people were angry. I didn't want to take him, but Top knew I would do it and my friend knew I would too. He never gave me any grief at all for it, and it's that which I'm talking about here. He didn't hold it against me for doing what had to be done. To this day, I believe he got screwed by the Army, but I've never regretted doing what needed to be done.

Nuff o' that.

Cassandra briefed on January 5, 2007 12:41 PM

Oh, I love it. But it made me cry.


But I still love it.

Murray briefed on January 6, 2007 01:50 AM

One you can add:

Civilian friends will hit on you wife.
Military friends will hit them for doing it.

Cricket briefed on January 6, 2007 09:04 AM

Not only will military friends keep the borrowed stuff, they will PCS with it and return it when you are stationed with them. And it will be in excellent shape.

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