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November 08, 2006

Finally! We win! We win!

Yahoo!

The farking campaign commercials are over!

The Republicans punted. The Dems have the ball. Let's see what they do with it. We still own the referee, for what that's worth, and the guys in the Replay booth are... mixed. Heh. That analogy is bilge, ainnit?

Awright, Denizens, how would you analogize this outcome?

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Comments on Finally! We win! We win!
wolfwalker briefed on November 8, 2006 05:47 AM

As if the Democrats had won the election of 1864.

ry briefed on November 8, 2006 06:10 AM

Wow. Very non-squish today John.

I'm going with Jonah on this: bring on the gridlock, baby. 11 seat majority in the House is not enough to do whatever you want. 2 seat advantage doesn't give them 2/3. Stealth filibusters, you'll rue the day you came up with that little tactic.

We lost. Get over it. The morons are in control now. In a year the American people will start wondering what the hell they did to themselves(why is there a hole in my foot that's bleeding?).

Remember, the Dems are the people who go into people's personal lives and rob them of freedoms quite often. Gun control. Anti-smoking laws. Obesity laws. They're the scolds who want to take candy and coke machines out of schools, and make 90% of what I thought was fun as a kid a crime against the State. Their true colours will show. People aren't stupid. They'll see. And then they'll act---as they did yesterday.
Face it. Four years of negative advertising was bound to eventually have an effect. Unlike most companies that have a limited time and budget to advertise for or against something we've come out of four years of non-stop attack.

I say bring back the slogan, 'Where's the beef?' The Dems aren't going to feed the bulldog. I expect a Stock Market regression. I expect a resurection of Hillary-Care that'll scare the bejeebus outta people(and med students). I expect to see more pharma go elsewhere since Hillary-Care will try to centrally control what they do(like the flu shot program that drove a few manufacturers out of business and lead to a serious shortage a few years ago). Give it a year.

ry briefed on November 8, 2006 06:26 AM

This from The Wife: "YOu can pry them from a cold, dead paws." Arm the Interior and Exterior Guard.

Cricket briefed on November 8, 2006 07:00 AM

more gridlock. It will be interesting to see what the Rethugs give up to get what they want.

fdcol63 briefed on November 8, 2006 07:19 AM

Normally, a cyclical change of party control of Congress and the Executive Branch is a good thing ... keeps things balanced somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum.

However, we're not in a "normal" environment at the moment, and this election will have serious consequences. Some think we need "gridlock" to keep Congress from messing things up, but I fear that it will also prevent Congress from taking whatever actions are necessary to continue to fight a conflict that we MUST win .... both in Iraq and elsewhere .... against the Islamists.

Iran, al Qaeda, North Korea, and China still loom on the horizon.

The American public may become sick and tired of Speaker Pelosi and her cohorts by 2008 and again demand "change", but what damage will have been wrought in those 2 years?

And can we recover from it before we pay a much higher price?

As ry said, 4 years of non-stop negative campaigning was bound to have an adverse effect on publlic opinion. But if nothing else, this election should cause the GOP leadership to seriously re-evaluate their party, forcing them to purge the stink within its own ranks and refocus on their values.

cw4(ret)billt briefed on November 8, 2006 07:24 AM

The eggs have been broken -- now, let's see if Congress produces an omelet or a reasonable facsimile of dog vomit...

BloodSpite briefed on November 8, 2006 08:03 AM

I'm looking forward to an exciting year or two of Governmental Gridlock, aren't you?

ry briefed on November 8, 2006 08:05 AM

I'm going with vomit.

WereKitty briefed on November 8, 2006 08:21 AM

Yep.
Vomit.

My more reasonable Sister put up her own post about this today, which basically boils down to the fact that Americans want change... but they didn't want a bunch of left-wing loonies in control either. The Dem's brought a lot of Centrists to the table last night, which drew away votes from the incumbent Republicans.

Change can be good... if you chose the right fork in the road. And I *do* me the RIGHT fork... not the Left.

J-P briefed on November 8, 2006 09:07 AM

The fact is, the Republicans need to have a kick in the pants. They've mishandled things for far too long, and have acted much like their opponents. The Dems pointed this out, and rightly deserve their victory. I congratulate them on it.

I also wish them all the luck in the world on not alienating the American public before the 2008 elections - cause they're going to need it. Now THEY are the ones making the decisions, and no one will have any sympathy for them if they screw up. No one will shed a single tear for negative campaign ads attacking their war policy, private sins or public corruption.

jim b briefed on November 8, 2006 09:51 AM

Arnold obviously wanted it. He worked for it. He did not take it for granted. He learned from his mistakes, and he got it. He is a winner, although I don’t see him as a Republican.

So why is it that the Republicans can find so few with charisma passion and desire to run? The people they run, at least around here are lackluster and do not present themselves with any attributes that can be called inspiring. In print, on radio and TV they come across as nothing.

Maybe the Republicans should require candidates to pass classes in the Arnold School of Acting. They can start with learning the alphabet and delivering lines with feeling. As they say … be sincere, even if you have to pretend.

It can be asked of most of them. “Well as an outsider, what do you think of the human race?”

I just reviewed the Kansas GOP page. Name by name you want to say…… Who?

They should be required to take and pass in the upper 10% ....classes on leadership, communication, sales, presentations and public speaking like from here:
http://www.dalecarnegie.com/

Because right now they not only bore me, they bore the voters too.

Who was it who said, "Politics is like a cesspool. The really big chunks float to the top."?

olga briefed on November 8, 2006 12:56 PM

just look how the world is reacting to the results and you will see what 'teaching a lesson' to the republicans and the President has achieved...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15618695/

I do not think (at least, I hope) the majority of this country wanted such results... and just think what our troops will be facing pretty soon now that the muj know that cut-n-run dems are in control...

clearly this was cutting-of-the-nose-to-spite-the-face stupidity...

ry briefed on November 8, 2006 01:07 PM

Gah. No, JimB(pours two fingers into glass and slides it over). With the problem being that we've descended into a political world that's all veneer your solution is to buy vinyl siding? No. screw personability. The real requisite should be having good ideas and the knack for getting it done in the conditions in which they will have to operate. Electioneering is not like having to hammer out a deal on the House floor.

I don't want two faced politicians anymore. I want the guy in the ad to be the guy on The Hill.

You've id'd the problem well, but not the sol'n.

OD briefed on November 8, 2006 07:50 PM

Since I'm not the gloating kind and have never carried water for the Democrats whatever some people might think, I thought I'd point out a couple of silver linings for my favourite band of conservative brothers.

1. 2006 proves that, since Dems can win an election, recent fears about voterigging have probably been exaggerated. While dirty tricks abound, the ruling party clearly lacks the wherewithal to steal an election in the face of strong popular opposition. So the 2006 result rather pulls the rug from under those who said GWB stole 2004 in particular.

2. The need to become electable has pushed the Democratic party itself to the right. Gun control in particular is now practically a taboo subject in the Democratic party. I doubt if a single one of the new Dem Reps and senators isn't pro-2nd Amendment. And quite a few of them are vets. In fact many of these red state Dem candidates would probably be Republicans if not for Iraq. That's certainly true of Jim Webb.

3. Sorry, but Iraq IS going south. Neither party can turn that around. But having Democrats in Congress will give the GOP the chance to deflect some of the blame. Even though conservative diehards like Ralph Peters, Ken Adelman, Richard Perle and David Frum were already despairing of Iraq before this election, most voters will have forgotten that by 2008. Instead, the right will be able to replace a grim tale of hubris, incompetence and failure with a fictional narrative in which defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory by stab-in-the-back leftists. Nancy Pelosi will be the new Jane Fonda. It worked to rebuild American conservative morale after Vietnam, and also worked for the German conservatives and militarists in 1918, when they handed power to the SPD just as they realised the war was lost. In fact I was hoping against hope for a GOP victory for just that reason, and some of the smartest Republicans are secretly welcoming this defeat.

4. When having power means dealing with Iraq, being in opposition can look pretty damn good.

5. The American conservative movement has a history of renewing itself in opposition.

The GOP increasingly seems divided between a fiscal conservative, foreign policy realist wing, and an ideological-religious wing that's dragging it and America down. This election gives the GOP's good guys the upper hand.

wolfwalker briefed on November 8, 2006 08:42 PM

JimB asked: "So why is it that the Republicans can find so few with charisma passion and desire to run?"

Simple: anyone who even thinks about running as a Republican knows he's gonna get put through the wringer by the media, and his entire life will be destroyed even if he wins. Why would any sane person want to go through that?


John of Argghhh! briefed on November 8, 2006 09:01 PM

Wolfwalker - as I noted in an earlier post... SWWBO wrote me in for State Representative...

"If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve."

I might serve one term, if I was elected without effort - but I damn sure won't run!

OD briefed on November 8, 2006 09:46 PM

By the way, Ry, stodck markets did indeed fall after the election as you suggest, especially in Asia. Though that may have been due to early uncertainty about the Senate, markets hating uncertainty as they do.

But you'll be pleased to hear that the Dow Jones rocketed to a new all-time record high, on recieving the news of Rumsfeld's resignation.

haji0matic briefed on November 9, 2006 12:43 AM

If these stupid A$$es cut and run...and my son is sent to fight insergents in 2012...I'm gonna file a lawsuit against the DNC for gross incompetence.