August 04, 2004

I'm with the Flea.

...with one caveat.

Gibraltar is whatever the residents of Gibraltar want it to be.

Not what Madrid..

Not what London...

What Gibraltans wants.

History has given the British government only responsibilities here. Not options.

Not choices.

No space for trades.

Simply responsiblities.

Sorry Tony.

Simply responsibilities.

The English sucks, but the point is made.

Yes, I realize that leaves me open on the subject of the Southwest, should Mexican immigrants wish to 'reacquire' the territory for Mexico.

If that's what they want, they deserve what they get.

Before you bring up the War of Southern Instransigence, like it or not, whatever you believe about the origins of the war - it ended up being about slavery as well as state's rights.

And the question of slavery trumps.

Sorry if that pisses off any Southern readers. And my great-grandfather was an Orphan. And I honor his memory, and his choice. Even if I think he was wrong.

Comments on I'm with the Flea.
Flea briefed on August 4, 2004 07:50 PM

This is one of those points where I part company with Tony Blair. Placating Spanish nationalism at the expense of the people of Gibraltar is profoundly, obviously wrongheaded. For what it is worth, Margaret Thatcher got it even more wrong when it came to Hong Kong.

Justthisguy briefed on August 4, 2004 09:21 PM

Gee, sir, with a ferocious ancestor like that, in demand by all Generals for his and his comrades' fighting skills, it's a wonder that you exist. I'm sure you're familiar with the story of the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions in WWII; they were so very good at what they did that the high command yielded to the temptation to just, well, use them up. My own Great-Granddaddy lost an eyeball at Chancellorsville, when he went around on the left with Jackson. Unlike Jackson, my G^2Pa lived, and begat those who begat me. There just ain't no tellin sometimes, is there?

John of Argghhh! briefed on August 5, 2004 06:15 AM

Tregonsee - Pappy Hays was either an accomplished skulker, or incredibly lucky (we choose to believe lucky) as he was one of the very few Orphans to be with the Brigade from start to finish - and never wounded. Considering that the Orphans fought in just about every major disaster the southern forces suffered in the West, and the one major victory, Chickamauga (which devastated the Orphans, though not Pappy's rump of a regiment), was as bloody for the Rebels as it was for the Yankees, he led a charmed life. As did my Grandfather in WWI, and my father in Korea and Vietnam. I got lucky enough for my term of service to fall in the 20-odd years where we did comparatively little fighting, and generally what fighting we did was against incompetents.

Chadd briefed on August 5, 2004 07:00 AM

Whenever one of my fellow Southrons brings up the issue of states rights, I ask them this question, "States rights to do what?" In the case of the Civil War, the key issue was for the Southern States to maintain their "peculiar institution." It's a good thing to be proud of your heritage, but I thank God we didn't win that one. We're so much stronger as a united country than we ever would have been as two.

By the way, my g/g/grandfather was part of Lillard's cavalry, and was with Jeff Davis when he was finally captured. He was released to go home to East Tennessee, but was killed near his home by some Union veteran "regulators." But not before he'd produced an heir or two.

Justthisguy briefed on August 8, 2004 02:25 AM

Yep, me, too, Chadd. I still maintain that any of the 13 Original States (and Texas) may secede at any time for any reason, good or bad, or for no reason whatsoever. Unfortunately, some of those folks did it for a bad reason. The Southern Slaveocracy, in my opinion, was bad for white Southern smallholders too, not just Negro slaves. Not to mention the effect on the minds of the master class, giving them the idea that they could shove their fellow humans around with impunity. Reminds me of Mr. Stirling's Draka novels, which are so creepy I haven't been able to finish reading all of them. I read rumors that Jim Baen doesn't want to publish any more of them because in them, the bad guys always win and enslave the rest of us.

Do you think "Basic Instinct" was icky? That gal cain't hold a candle to Gwendolyn Ingolfsen.

Justthisguy briefed on August 8, 2004 03:25 AM

More on the improbability of our lives:

My Daddy, the War Criminal (He helped hoick 55-gallon drums of gasoline up into the bomb bays of B-29s in April, '45, when they ran out of factory-made incendiaries.) had an opportunity to catch a ride home from Saipan aboard USS Indianapolis. He turned it down, in favor of flying. We know what happened to THOSE guys.

When you think about it, it really is very unlikely that any of us exists.

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